The C8 Z06 Corvette sounds more Ferrari than Ferrari

I’m getting an early car at MSRP.

I’ll sell you mine for $100K over MSRP.

 

I really love the C8, and admire the Z06 for its N/A V8, but it won't stand a chance against the F8, since you are mentioning straight line performance. The F8 is this fast: https://zeperfs.com/en/fiche7882-ferrari-f8-tributo.htm
The plain C8 claims 3'', but it is 3.3'' in reality. The Z06 will be about 3'', but above that, the F8 will decimate it. https://zeperfs.com/en/fiche8135-chevrolet-corvette-c8-z51.htm

PS: 0-60 is meaningless and traction limited.

 

Had my name on the list for a while, 4th place. Just got told if market conditions stay the same today they are going to be asking for a 60k ADM. I’m going to pull my deposit this morning. I’m not paying a ADM of nearly 50% for anything. It’s not that money, it’s the principle of what they are doing. I’m sure it’ll perform but it’s just not worth that markup.

 

Same here on a few 911 offerings and allocation. I might pay a couple of grand over, but I can wait.


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I think this isn’t absolute one or the other. If I could find a C8 today at msrp I would buy one in a heart beat. I would keep the 488 in the garage for just drool over and use the C8 for a daily. Take out the F car when I want . I love both but both serve a different purpose

 

That’s literally what made me take the pista over the gt2rs. They wanted 30k ADM, I sold all my porsches and went Ferrari only because the value a relationship to some extent. Didn’t get to this point in my life giving money up on a deal for no benefit and won’t start now.

 

The principle of what they are doing is supply and demand. It’s the capitalist system and Ferrari plays it better than most. Of course if we don’t like the system we can move to a socialist country where these cars a totally unobtainable except on the black market. Or we can do what you did- decrease demand until the price hopefully returns to earth( but I would not bet on it)


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you have no clue what you’re talking about. This is my C8. 0-60 is fantastic. It’s slow afterward. Z06 will run 10.4-10.5. It won’t beat an F8 but hang in there, probably win to 100 mph
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First of all 0-60 mph is different to 0-100 kph. Secondly and most importantly, onboard computers are not that accurate. The data I provided are by precision instruments (The V Box is used by most magazines). So, I think I know what I am talking about.

 

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c8-general-discussion/4379994-unofficial-c8-fast-list.html

https://www.motortrend.com/features/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-faster-accelerating-from-0-60-mph/

 

Your point being?

 

Plenty of customer stock C8's have dipped below 3 seconds to 60-62mph. The DCT and launch control make it a pretty easy task.

 

60 is not the same as 62. In many cars an extra gearchange is needed. That was my original point. The 0-100 kph times as achieved by respectable magazines are shown in the link on post #477.

 

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c8-general-discussion/4385795-z51-vs-non-z51-speed-per-gear.html

C8 reaches 60 or 62 in 3rd gear. The difference would be negligible. It wouldn't take half second to to accelerate 2mph. Your solidly in the torque band at that speed. 3rd gear tops out at 8xmph.
Again plenty of owners have hit sub 3 seconds, with a few hitting high 10's in the quarter, verified by vbox.

 

High 10's is way off from an F8. Those are using pretty sticky rubber. An F8 can run high 9's. Thaf 0-60 is a neat party trick, but lap times tell a different story. A Z51 on MPS4S is 1.6 seconds slower on Seca than a 458 on MPSS, and it us 6 seconds slower than a 488 on MPSS. 6 seconds on a 1:3X second track is MASSIVE! Also, while there may not be half a second of a difference between 0-60 and 0-62, there is about 0.2-0.3, even at sub 3 times. Just look at the 911 TTS.

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I was at the track yesterday. There were two C8’s there. By the third 25 minute session, BOTH were experiencing engine overheating issues and came into the paddock early with a smoking engine and ended their days early. The first C8 experienced this in session two, and the other C8 experienced it in session three. I was behind one of them when their engine started smoking.

These are not track cars that are built to sustain real track conditions. They may be able to perform some party tricks, but they are no supercar no matter how hard they try.


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Yup, you want to track a street car...you have to buy a Porsche...unfortunately.

 

Have you concluded based on t he sample size of 2, that the C8 is not track worthy but the 458 and/or only super cars are up to task? I love my fcars, but, they seem too fragile for any sustained track work imho. Check out some speed phenom videos. The kid puts the C8 to work at the track with seemingly little issue.

 

According to Chevy engineers, they’ve addressed the overheating issues in the Z06. The biggest problem with the car is lack of production. The plant capacity is about 900 cars a week, and that includes the “lesser” Stingray. While many early Z06 orders could be from speculators and those looking to flip them for profit, a lot are from fans thinking this may be the last NA engine car of this kind. So orders are out into 2024 or beyond. Some dealers are going to considerable ADM, so you end up with a $120-30k contented car at $200k or more.


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$200k for a Z06… that might actually help the Ferrari preowned market not hurt it!


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See, that's just offensive. A 200% markup from the dealership is outrageous. If GM is only making a limited number, then raise the factory price. Don't screw around with people and say it's a $100k supercar for the masses, and then allow the dealers to sell them at Ferrari prices. It's either an affordable, mass produced American supercar, or it's not. If that comment above holds true, then it's not supply/demand, it's false advertising.

 

To me, the problem is that GM provided content at a $100k price point and dealer markup just means profit for the dealers without any added value. Ferrari theoretically provides content at a higher price point so at least the buyer gets something for the higher price. Theoretically.


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Dealer structure is different with the big three. Same kind of thing happened when ZR-1 was re-introduced and when the Viper came out.

Actually, some kind of thing is happening in 911 world.

I say if someone can’t wait that’s their problem. But I would also take note of the greedy dealers and go elsewhere. GM dealerships are a dime a dozen.


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