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  1. metaldriver

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    #26 metaldriver, Nov 14, 2021
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    I don't think so. Look where the caliper is on the LF ... at the 6 o-clock position. That caliper is supposed to be at the 3 o-clock position. If the caliper moved that much, it is likely the spindle is damaged, which indicates (to me) the wheel integrity is compromised. Who knows what the RF wheel looks like, having taking the brunt of curb impact damage.
     
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  2. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota F1 Veteran

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    That much damage to a car as sturdy as the SF90 and an injury like that? Speeding. Zero doubt.

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  3. Coincid

    Coincid F1 Rookie

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    Why is making a judgment relevant at all ? This was a serious accident , cause undetermined, that resulted in a total car write off but fortunately a young girl passenger emerged unscathed and the driver sustained injuries that are not life threatening. What is significant, is whether the car malfunctioned being responsible for the cause of the accident.
     
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  4. ferrariwithsnowtires

    ferrariwithsnowtires Formula Junior

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    Hoping for a full recovery for the driver and thankful that the passenger was not injured
    What malfunction are you proposing would have led to this?
     
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  5. JTSE30

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    Now that would be a very scary possibility, if the front electric motors decided to have a mind of their own...hmm, we really do need to know more about this accident.
     
  6. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota F1 Veteran

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    Because everyone out there is watching us. We are constantly judged by other road users when we drive our cars. We need to hold ourselves to a high standard in relation to events such as this.

    This is just another notch in the belt for those saying "There goes another idiot in his Ferrari" and those wishing to legislate. We need to own up to what we see so that we can create a culture where driving like a moron is not accepted and never excused.

    There will be an investigation, and that will be the final judge ment. But we as fellow Ferrari owners should be frank and open about our opinions.

    I'm not saying what I'm saying to pass judgement - that's a job for the courts. I just call it as I see it and that's my opinion. To me it looks like speeding, and that to a degree where I feel little if any doubt at all. If it turns out to be true, then I can base a judgment off of that, but I will reserve my judgment till there's an official conclusion.

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  7. mcw

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    Road at accident site is straight, flat, and level. Posted speed limit is 40 mph and rises to 50 mph about 400 feet further up the road after the accident site. 33.615959, -117.909590 across street from 500 Pacific Coast Highway, Newport Beach.
     
  8. Gpsorenson

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    I've been trying to find this everywhere. I actually passed by the guy while driving to Huntington beach, he was pulling out of the Ferrari dealership. I made a U turn about 5 minutes later driving back towards the Ferrari dealership (not to see the sf90, just driving for fun) and it was wrecked right across the street. The girl was standing and as I've read is fine, lucky he didn't kill anyone.
     
  9. Il Co-Pilota

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    This is just a hunch, not a judgment. But that kind of feels a bit like, "Went to the dealer, took a cool car out for a drive, nailed the throttle out of the gate, ran outvof talent.".

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  10. rossodino

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    This car had been delivered to the owner the week before, I know this because a good friend of mine is his neighbor and he had sent me pics shortly after delivery obviously this is a very sad situation, fortunately the occupants survived.
     
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  11. Robertdrenk

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    Plenty of experience actually.
     
  12. Robertdrenk

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    Yeah no not at all.
     
  13. Robertdrenk

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    Thanks, I wasn’t speeding I had just got the car washed, wet tires and the traction control was off somehow as I pulled out and switched lanes at 35-40 the tires slid as if they were on ice in slow motion and sent me into the curb. When it hit the throttle came through the floor board and crushed my ankle also sending the car full speed on the sidewalk into the pole! Look at the throttle in the photo
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  14. jsh458ft

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    Wow - glad you're alright, what a bummer. The crushed pedal box is definitely disconcerting.
     
  15. SoCal to az

    SoCal to az F1 World Champ
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    Im glad you are ok and so is your daughter. Do you think the traction control being off could be a result of the digital interface? If I recall the SF90 does not have the traditional Mannetino switch? Maybe its easier to not be in the mode that you want to be in?
     
  16. JTSE30

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    Still a physical switch...

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  17. SoCal to az

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    Ahh- my bad. Thought they had changed that.
     
  18. Rrr1

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    Wet tires on the sf90 and in any mode outside of wet and it’s gonna be a hard car to control.
     
  19. Napoli

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    Why is there so much damage to the side(s) upon which there was no (apparent) impact? The car seems to be wrinkled and malformed everywhere.
     
  20. Il Co-Pilota

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    The car looks to have been "compressed" so to speak. Taks a lot of force to do that with such a stiff chassis. Just another indicator that a fairly high rate of speed is part of the equation.

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  21. Napoli

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    How fast?
     
  22. Il Co-Pilota

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  23. Marcel Massini

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    Perhaps the chassis is not as stiff as some people think?

    Marcel Massini
     
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  24. Napoli

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    #49 Napoli, Dec 19, 2021
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    ..."Just another indicator that a fairly high rate of speed is part of the equation."

    What would qualify as "a fairly high rate of speed?" That car looks like it was put through a tumble dryer. I can't believe it was only impacted on the curb side of the car. And, what are those red marks on the car from?

    I know this is highly situational guesswork on my part, and my objective is not to doubt or impugn the driver, but why would the foot still be on the accelerator at the moment of impact (with the pedal impact causing injury to his ankle) instead of on the brake pedal? Rhetorical questions, perhaps. No need to reply if you (or anyone else) are not so inclined.
     
  25. Il Co-Pilota

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    60+ in those conditions perhaps.

    As for why he would have his foot on the throttle? Panic perhaps. People dovall sorts of thjngs when their car loses control. Stepping on the gas instead of the brake isn't that uncommon after all.

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