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The Purosangue Thread

Discussion in 'Purosangue' started by MDEL, Dec 6, 2017.

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  1. David su

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    My dealer told me it has V12. Anyone know about that??
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    I think you'll find quite a few of the previous 2850 posts in this thread (plus all the others) mention the engine
     
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  3. maximilien

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    It doesn’t look like a corvette ?
    Like all new Ferrari people don't like it at the start, before having 3 years of waiting to have one
     
  4. MDEL

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    Although one is an Italian FUV and the other is a Japanese racing car, if we swapped the fronts between them we wouldn't notice a big difference.


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  5. aobao1993

    aobao1993 Formula Junior

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    What information is known about this purosangue now ?
     
  6. gt_lusso

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    #2856 gt_lusso, Mar 24, 2022
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2022
    Short summary of what we know so far:

    It will first be delivered as a hyper exclusive V12 for their most beloved customers, and later on as a hybrid V6 for the peasants. There will eventually be a fully electric version to be sold as an alternative to the hybrid V6. For the ones who truly care about the environment.

    Someone mentioned one thousand (1000!!!!) V12s in total. Not sure if this is true, but it would not surprise me if it is.

    The SUV will have rear hinged doors for the passengers in the back. Coach doors, like Rolls Royce.

    Price wise, some users in this thread has said it will start at north of 450.000 euros. But this is just speculation, and not confirmed. What all the sources has in common though, is that the car will be higher priced than any four seater from Maranello ever.

    Other than that, the interior is expected to be highly influenced by Ferraris latest design language. Lots of screens, electronics and haptic feedback on the steering wheel. It will with out doubt, be cutting edge.

    There is, as seen on the leaked photos, an aerobridge similar to Ferrari F12. We know so far, that the aerodynamics of this car will be no less engineered than other F-cars from Maranello.

    And one last thing: this is an SUV developed and designed in Maranello from ground up. Do not expect it to share anything with an already existing car/platform.
     
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  7. MisterMaranello

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    In my head making only 1000 units of the V12 does not really make financial sense unless the markup is enormous. Quite a different task packaging a V12 and V6, and the development cost must be huge if there are only 1000 V12.
     
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  8. pilotoCS

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    Right. Unlike an IC engine that doesn't need petrol constantly.
     
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  9. gt_lusso

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    I believe it's pure marketing strategy. It's a short term strategy that will create hype and convince customers that this is a true Ferrari. Just look at the name/code name for the SUV. Purosangue. Pure blood. Haha. Makes me giggle. It's the V6 that will make them money. And if the V12-version can inspire more people to sign a contract for the V6, it's well worth it even if the V12-version don't add up financially.
     
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  10. TheMayor

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  11. 1881

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    does anybody know if they anticipated the pre-views/ release given the leaks...think it's highly unusual that they tease the car in so much detail...usually it's just some elements if any or some graphics ...but given the leak looks like they just went all in...just wonder if they think it makes sense to officially announce the car now rather sooner than later
     
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  12. Forza Scuderia

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    This was a very well thought out, helpful to everyone and skillfully crafted post. Thank you and Bravo!
     
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  13. Forza Scuderia

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    Does anyone know if they are making the V12 PS on the current existing V12 production line or is there a dedicated new production facility for the PS?

    Because the answer to that question will help us gauge roughly how many V12 PS they can fit into their production of other V12 vehicles.

    I doubt they are going to limited number this car but it may have a limited time production run like the Pista Spider and then there could very well be limited capacity to produce much more than a 1,000 or so V12 PS in addition to the other V12 cars in the production queue.
     
  14. Garretto

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    I've been wondering about the same. Anything could be.
     
  15. JTSE30

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    Because the V12s are hand assembled, they have only so many employees who can perform this assembly and that number is not easy to expand. It does not matter where these persons are located, it would have zero impact on overall production of V12s... the PS V12 production will have to be embedded in all other V12 production...

    Now, the actual vehicle assembly line can be anywhere, and probably will be dedicated somewhere especially once other engines (V6TurboHybrid for instance) are produced.

    Currently somewhere near 4000 V12s are the queue for production (remaining 812GTS, 812c, 812cA, SP3, not including eventual new hypercar), and the maximum factory annual V12 production is near 2200...so the V12 PS production will have to share for the next 2 years or so...(last year about 1780 V12s engines were produced, estimated from annual report page 52)
     
  16. ScrappyB

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    I don't expect the V12 to be limited to 1,000 units but I think it's reasonable to assume the number of years of it being offered as a pure ICE (or 48V mild hybrid) will be short. It will probably be replaced by a full hybrid system as regulations tighten up. As with the 812, the earlier (non OPF) cars will be most desirable.
     
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  17. day355

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    We all know that the SUV has no history, no legitimacy in the Ferrari range.
    There may be a demand, but in that case, let's produce Fiat 500s badged Ferrari, because there is probably a demand too, right!?
    Where does the "EXPLOITATION" of the badge stop ???
    Diluting the soul of the brand will not serve them over time.
     
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  18. day355

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    Limiting the V12 to 1000 units...seriously, there was never any question of that !
     
  19. gt_lusso

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    You are very welcome, and thank you.
    You also asked if anyone knows if the V12 PS will be produced on a new production line; I think JTSE30 has a good answer to that.
     
  20. gt_lusso

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    100% because of the leaks. The leaked photos brought them down to their knees, and it's very obvious that they have changed their plan for its reveal. Ferrari has never before revealed so much details of an upcoming vehicle several months before launch.
     
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  21. REALZEUS

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    Same platform as the Roma, as far as we know.
     
  22. gt_lusso

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    I was not aware of that. Thank you.
     
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  23. GrigioGuy

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    You're aware of the Fiat 500 Abarth 695 Tributo Ferrari correct?

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  24. Albert-LP

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    I'm too old to understand this thing.

    It will produce a lot of money, but Enzo wouldn't be happy.

    Ciao
     
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  25. john Owen

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    There is nothing wrong with this new SUV except it shouldn't have any Ferrari badges fixed to it. They should instead have created another new brand like Toyota did with Lexus in reverse.
     
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