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  1. BJK

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    I'm afraid it will all be too little, too late. Reality is Putin and the huge Russian military will not be stopped. Slowed down? yes. Heavy losses? yes. >>> Stopped ? NO
    The fight is right next to the Russian border/supply lines. Russia will bomb the cities to dust like we have seen.

    Russia will pay a massive, generational economic price.

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  2. spicedriver

    spicedriver F1 Rookie

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    Disagree. Russia has already tried multiple offenses in the east now with no results. Russia has still been unable to take control of Mariupol. The Ukrainian military has been able to counter all of the offenses. Russia simply lacks the forces after their defeat in the Battle of Kiev. Russia has still not gained air superiority. Russian aircraft have to fly low to avoid S-300 systems, and this opens them up to MANPADS. The only truly effective weapons Russia has is the precision guided missiles, which are likely running low on supply. Most of these were wasted attacking civilian areas with no tactical value. Ukraine continues to pick off Russian heavy weapons with drone guided artillery, and MANPADS. Russia will be unable to sustain these losses, and will be forced to withdraw. Russia will withdraw and declare victory.

     
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  3. Flavio_C

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    I hope you are correct!

    In the beggining I was not believing on the official Ukranian count of Russians KIAs, but after having a look at that website that documents the equipment losses with photos, you can multiply it by the average number of ocupants and accompaning troops, and I now do believe that more than 20k Russian soldiers are dead!

    My biggest concern is that Putin might get desperate with so much humilition and decides to launch tatical nuclear weapons on Ukraine.

    Also the guys from the Azov regiment are hiding at the Azovstal with no food and sufficient ammunition, and the Russians will not capture them but will kill them all. :(

     
  4. BJK

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    exactly. and how do you respond to that without starting WWIII? :confused: ... reason with the madmen that decided to use them in the first place? escalation leading to MAD ? :eek:

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  6. ylshih

    ylshih Shogun Assassin
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    And we're fed up with you not getting the message and respecting the rules that have been explained multiple times to you in F1 and here. There is a 410 page, 11,000 post thread in P&R discussing the Ukraine War in exactly the way you want to discuss it. But you can't be bothered to understand how to get to that thread.

    Putin's humiliation and discussion of the Azov battalion have to do with geopolitics and not planes, missiles, air defense, etc, etc, which is the ONLY reason that these aspects of the Ukraine war should be discussed here.

    Permanent ban.
     
  7. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I got kicked off your 4100 page, 11,000 post thread in P&R because a partisan moderator didn't like what I posted, even though what I posted was well within the rules.

    You have new moderators. I get it. But they need to understand something. It is we the members are the ones that create the content that makes FerrariChat money. FerrariChat is not a publishing company. FerrariChat does not create any content. We, the great unwashed, are FerrariChat. Not the moderators.
     
  8. DBomb117

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    I think I read somewhere that Boris Johnson stated that the UK reserves the right to respond unilaterally without consulting NATO if Russia utilized nuclear weapons.


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  9. ylshih

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    Your beef is with wrxmike, not me. Go talk to him. If he doesn't give you satisfaction, then escalate to Rob.

    On the other hand, your refusal to let things go and converting that into stalking (if your beef is with a person) or littering unrelated threads with your repetitive complaints (such as the Jack-the-Lad thread and this one) has led to very clearly stated warnings and bans in the past. I strongly suggest you stop this and go about your complaint differently.
     
  10. Texas Forever

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    Already did. No response.


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  11. ylshih

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  12. spicedriver

    spicedriver F1 Rookie

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    20,000 dead, and likely 60,000 wounded. That's about 1/2 of the original invasion force.

    There is video of Nuclear bombers flying over western Russia recently, but I believe this is just tactics.



    Prevailing easterly winds would likely spread the fallout over Russia. Also, if the actual goal is to annex territory, you wouldn't want that territory to be radioactive for the next 1,000 years.

    Helter skelter in a summer swelter, the birds flew off with a fallout shelter
    Eight miles high and falling fast
     
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  13. spicedriver

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    Drone footage of Russian artillery battery under attack from Ukrainian forces.

     
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  14. spicedriver

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    Russian Air Force video released recently.

     
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  15. Gatorrari

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    If the Ukrainians can shoot down just one of those Blackjack bombers (the type circled), that will put a real crimp in Putin's style!
     
  16. spicedriver

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  19. spicedriver

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    Must Watch Russian Missile Fails

     
  20. spicedriver

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    Ukrainian forces using drones to direct artillery fire.

     
  21. BJK

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  22. Texas Forever

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