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Ferrari sitting for 30 months for repairs.

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  1. 458Spider2013

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    #1 458Spider2013, Apr 19, 2022
    My Ferrari has been sitting for 2.5 years and I need to get it ready for the road again.

    I need to do a complete fluid flush and gas drain.

    Is this a DIY job or should I take her to a specialist? Would any competent Euro car mechanic be able to handle this without risk?

    The quotes are so far off in terms of costs that I'm beginning to wonder are the "Ferrari shops" creating a silly money grab based on the marque as we all know happens. I have a good German auto mechanic willing to take her in for about half of what the Ferrari specialist wants for the same job.

    Question: For a fluid flush from sitting, which direction would you go - specialist or Euro shop?
     
  2. Art138

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    #2 Art138, Apr 19, 2022
    What mode/year? I changed all the fluids in my previous Scud. I did not have to flush the gas. You would need a connector tool for the gasoline disconnect line. Here again depending on the model dictates the complexity. I would not mess around with gasoline unless you know what you are doing. Most Euro shops can do the job for older Ferraris. Where are you located?
     
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    #3 458Spider2013, Apr 19, 2022
    look at my handle. lol.

    My car is currently in Sacramento but I can tow it to the Bay Area and drop it anywhere in-between.
     
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    #4 Art138, Apr 19, 2022
    Noted…..maybe someone from your area can chime in and provide shops where the service can be performed.
     
  5. 458Spider2013

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    #5 458Spider2013, Apr 19, 2022
    Do you think a well respected euro shop that works on Mercedes, Porsche and Audi would be able to handle a fluid change without making errors or neglecting important tasks?
     
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    #6 Art138, Apr 19, 2022
    If the shop has a track record of having worked on 458s yes. Otherwise,to rule on the side of caution I would take it to a dealer.
     
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    #7 458Spider2013, Apr 19, 2022
    I did ask that question and his reply was “if we were talking a tranny rebuild he himself would advise I go elsewhere but for fluids he’s well qualified”

    Is that reasonable?


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    #8 Art138, Apr 19, 2022
    Let me send you a pm
     
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    #9 458Spider2013, Apr 19, 2022
    Ok
     
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    #10 Sargepug, Apr 19, 2022
    Well, according to Ferrari, you are due for the 2 year service. Off the top of my head, this requires a belt change, brake fluid flush, oil change, at least one or more filters replaced and you are due for the brake failure recall work (new fluid cap and software update). Obviously, besides that you must to go to the dealer for the recall, I wouldn't dare touch some of the other work DYI, most notably the brake flush and belt change. Do you have a relationship w/ any of the techs or manager at your dealership of choice? If so, you should try to strike a deal and see how that compares to an Indi shop. ;)
    On a side note, how old are your tires? After 6 years, regardless of mileage and wear, you should replace them...
     
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    #11 italiafan, Apr 20, 2022
    I don’t think Indys are that much cheaper. Just take it to the dealer and get everything done right, including the recall. So you spend a few extra hundies, so what?
     
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    #12 458Spider2013, Apr 20, 2022
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    I hear you. This is my first Ferrari and my entire life I've programmed myself not to get reamed by dealerships. You would think they are stellar and honest but the horror stories of them recommending work that's not necessary is on record. Perhaps Ferrari dealers are different because of the marque but I bet that is determined dealer by dealer.

    Ive never had a service advisor as a friend and one that looks out for my best interest. Perhaps that's because Ive never bought a Ferrari from said dealership where then I would expect a relationship. When you bring in a car bought from a private seller, you always seem to get the long list of what the seller neglected to do. Finding a well respected mechanic that you can fully trust for me is far more important that whether I'm at a certified Ferrari dealer when it comes to basic service. Recall recomendation not withstanding.

    We'll see.
     
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    #13 twcferrari, Apr 20, 2022
    I have my 458 serviced at Stewart's on Stockton Blvd. Much less than the dealership in the Bay and just as knowledgeable.

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    #14 Sargepug, Apr 20, 2022
    I suggest this route, since you do not have a dealership of choice and no relationship w/ any tech or manager as of yet. Go to an Indi and get a quote for the work and also get a quote from Ferrari. If the Indi comes in cheaper, have a sit down w/ the Ferrari service manager and see what he can do to match it. ;)
     
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    #15 458Spider2013, Apr 20, 2022
    All great suggestions.

    First I need to identify the scope of work necessary. My car has 12k mi and no service history due to being an auction buy. I have a call into my local dealer to attempt to determine the service history as well as the recall info. The fluid change decision was because she's been sitting. Perhaps not all fluids are prone to degradation due to inactivity but at the very least motor oil and gas need changing....

    Thoughts - Keeping in mind that these last two years were inactive ears in terms of fluid use?

    Perhaps a full two year servicing isn't necessary given that no miles were put on the car. I'll post the dealers records as per the vin to see where i'm at.
     
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    #16 Il Co-Pilota, Apr 20, 2022
    Considering the fact that it has been sitting for that long, take it to a dealer. I will be honest and say that I'd be surprised if there's not several issues that needs to be fixed. Suspension bushes, brake caliper seals and gaitors, seals elsewhere, dry rotted tyres, clogged fuel system, cracked hoses and so forth. Letting a car sit for that long is usually expensive.

    Why on earth would anyone do that?

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    #17 458Spider2013, Apr 20, 2022
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    Previous owner got arrested and is doing a stretch. Car wasn't exposed to the elements...lol. Luckily it was garaged.

    I am certain Ferrari service guys are more than accustomed to dealing with sitting cars when the average mileage of 10 year old 458's are about 15k mi. Cars sitting for a year or two happens all the time. In fact collectors always have this dilemma over the relationship between parking it and driving it.
     
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    #18 SVCalifornia, Apr 20, 2022
    Good reason!

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    #19 Il Co-Pilota, Apr 20, 2022
    The issues I mention are not due to the car being in or out. That's just what happens. It would happen if the garage was climate controlled.

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    #20 458Spider2013, Apr 20, 2022
    point taken. Im a little apprehensive taking my car in and giving them carte blanche to go over and fix whet they think should be done. That's a recipe for a $15k bill.

    I'm not sure I should even tell them its been sitting. I think I'd rather tell them what I want done. Of course if along the way they see something obvious, We can deal with it.

    I just don't trust Ferrari dealers.
     
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    #21 wthensler, Apr 20, 2022
    I looked at the title and thought it was taking 30 months to do the repairs, lol…..wonder what that bill would be.

    Regardless of which route you go for service, do yourself a big favor and drive the car once you get it. The most problematic cars are the ones that sit.

    I mostly have mine serviced locally because the dealer is 2 plus hours away. And I’m on my soon to be 4th oil change……this year.
     
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    #22 458Spider2013, Apr 20, 2022
    wow you drive a lot.
     
  23. Need4Spd

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    #23 Need4Spd, Apr 20, 2022
    First visit post-acquisition service for that long merits a dealer visit. They can do recall and other campaigns that independents cannot. From there you have a baseline, albeit an expensive one, and can choose to go back or go to an independent after that.

    And I would have them change all the fluids, including coolant, with the only possible exception being the DCT fluid, since it’s not had many heat cycles from not being driven and subject to any shearing loads.


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    #24 wthensler, Apr 20, 2022
    And hard, lol……a track will do that to a car. From VIR at last week’s FCA event……..

     
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    #25 458Spider2013, Apr 20, 2022
    Love it!

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