car design thread

Art was such a cool guy. I invited him to speak at the College for Creative Studies before he passed. He had all of us in awe of the great stories he had to tell.

 

These two videos start to get at the 'behind the scenes' of corporate design. Future episodes will discuss a great deal more.

 

Motor Trend listed these elements surrounding the Celestiq:

• Cadillac prioritized finalizing the flagship Celestiq's design early so it could inspire mainstream cars that would precede it to market, like the Lyriq.
• The proportions were set by specifying the largest Escalade wheels on a vehicle with a roofline lower than the CT6's along with the wheelbase and width necessary to package enough Ultium battery modules down a wide center console. Chief engineer Tony Roma notes, "If it were about 8mm [0.3 inch] wider, we'd have to add clearance lights."
• The design is meant to look simple from afar, and then reveal exquisite details upon closer examination.
• The aluminum spaceframe will be left unpainted with horizontal brushing also applied by hand, visible around each door opening.
• Because of the low roof, it would be impossible to seat passengers comfortably atop a skateboard battery like the one in the Lyriq, Hummer, or Silverado EV. So the footwells are all "hollowed out," with most of the battery modules residing in a high, wide center console that runs about 8 feet down the entire center of the car.
• "We wanted to treat the occupant of each seat like they were the owner," Roma said, noting how each is fitted with precisely the same caliber of heating, ventilation, neck-warming, recline, and massage. The shape and "standard trim order" is the same for all four seats, which are designed to look a bit like a classic mid-century Eames chair.
• The show car's seats, door panels, and even the floors are wrapped in real leather; the floors are covered with carpeted floormats made of eucalyptus fibers which feel even more sumptuous than the bamboo-fiber ones found in the Mercedes EQXX concept.
• A continuous, curved 55-inch diagonal LED-illuminated screen incorporates a "digital blind" which allows drivers to see static content on the passenger's screen to avoid distractions.
• Air vents are aimed electrically.
• The Mondrian Cadillac-crest-inspired tinting gradations on the rear side glass are disallowed by safety standards.
• Cadillac gave assurances that goddess iconography will be reserved for very special Cadillacs, like the Celestiq.
• An annual production of 400 would match that of the hand-built 1957 Eldorado Brougham.

 

The basic bodyside and upper themes are very close let alone the taillamps.

 

Yes that’s the point. Same design themesvatv1/w the cost

 

Absolutely, that was a given my entire career at GM.

 

Let's talk more Cadillacs.

 

Peter DeLorenzo The Autoextremist weighs in on the Cadillac Celestiq.
THE CADILLAC CELESTIQ: SPECTACULAR WOW.
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By Peter M. DeLorenzo

Detroit. No, there wasn’t going to be a “Part IV” to my series on the importance of design, but then Cadillac released the official images of its CELESTIQ show car – which is basically the production car – and the automotive world came to a screeching halt.

The CELESTIQ is no ordinary show car. It represents a commitment by GM upper management to return Cadillac to its once hard-earned moniker “The Standard of the World” – with a no excuses, no-compromise machine that oozes “Cadillac” from every angle. This will be a hyper-luxury sedan designed to compete with the best that the automotive world has to offer. This $300,000+ automotive flamboyance can be customized to the last detail by its buyers, and the CELESTIQ will be handbuilt in a special assembly facility at the GM Global Technical Center in Warren, Michigan.

But the significance of the CELESTIQ goes even beyond that. It is a stunning, milestone car that reasserts GM Design’s position as the unrivaled industry leader in an automotive discipline that can make or break a brand’s image, or make or break and an entire company, for that matter.

Historically, GM not only has the deepest connection to the roots of automotive design, it invented the discipline. From the time when Harley Earl created the Art and Colour Section in 1927, GM has valued and nurtured design and has been the industry leader by far. And when Bill Mitchell succeeded Earl as chief of design in the late 50s, GM reveled in a period of unbridled design creativity that lasted for two decades. Mitchell’s most notable show cars and concepts – the ’59 Corvette Sting Ray racer, the Mako Shark I and II, the Corvair Monza GT and SS – were indeed stunning, but his real genius was rooted in his ability to bring concept car looks to mainstream production vehicles like the ’63 Corvette Sting Ray, the ’63 Buick Riviera, the front-wheel-drive Oldsmobile Toronado and Cadillac Eldorado, and on and on. The legacy of the Mitchell Era resonates to this day, and you can feel it every time you walk into the magnificent GM Design lobby.

And Cadillac has led the way for GM Design for the better part of two decades, with stunning show cars like the Sixteen, Cien, Ciel, Elmiraj and Escala. But those breathtaking machines were just warmups for the ultimate GM Design statement: the Cadillac CELESTIQ.

“The CELESTIQ show car is the purest expression of Cadillac,” said Magalie Debellis, manager, Cadillac Advanced Design. “It brings to life the most integrated expressions of design and innovation in the brand’s history, coalescing in a defining statement of a true Cadillac flagship.” In developing the show car, the design and engineering teams didn’t have to go far in order to immerse themselves in the legacy of Cadillac. The artisanship and customization that defined early Cadillac sedans such as the bespoke V-16 powered coaches of the prewar era, and the handbuilt 1957 Eldorado Brougham were notable examples of an illustrious history. “Those vehicles represented the pinnacle of luxury in their respective eras, and helped make Cadillac the standard of the world,” said Tony Roma, chief engineer. “The CELESTIQ show car — also a sedan, because the configuration offers the very best luxury experience — builds on that pedigree and captures the spirit of arrival they expressed.”

As I said in one of my previous design columns, design is the Ultimate Initial Product Differentiator, and in the transition to the EV Age, compelling design will become even more critical. With similar battery platform designs – aka “the skateboard” – and other technical commonalities such as range and charging capability, the look and street presence of vehicles will directly affect consumer desire. The True Believers at GM Design seem to understand this implicitly, which is why the CELESTIQ is so breathtaking.

In another one of my design columns, I said: What makes us gravitate to one shoe or another? Design. What about to a coat or a particular pair of boots? Design. And how about furniture? Design. Everything we come across as we go about our day is directly attributable to design, from residential and commercial architecture to graphic presentations in videos and on TV, and everything and anything in between. Even mundane places – such as gas stations and their attached convenience stores – have graphic designs helping to create their look and feel. Design sets the tone and creates an ambience, and even if we’re not consciously aware of its power and influence, it is always there.

And when it comes to automobiles, of course, it’s no secret that the power and influence of design are magnified exponentially. Design not only matters in the automobile business: It. Is. Everything.

This series has generated a lot of comments from within the industry, especially – and understandably so – from the design community. I would say that the vast majority of the comments we received were positive, and that’s gratifying, because I have the utmost respect for the creative talents who work in the design houses all over the world.

As I’ve said many times before, the artisans who toil in design studios are the most influential people in the automobile business. They set the tone for brands and lead the word-of-mouth, “street look” discussions, and their visionary work can make – or break – a car company’s fortunes, as I stated previously.

This work requires, vision, discipline and a savagely creative mindset that is instantly graded the moment the wraps are taken off of their latest designs. It is a tough, tough profession, but when you talk to designers, most wouldn’t trade it for anything. Seeing something in concept or production form that they had a key role in creating presents a level of exhilaration that’s extremely hard to beat.

As if to underscore my series on Design, the Cadillac CELESTIQ is the most stunning vehicle to appear on the automotive scene in 25 years. Period. GM Design, under Michael Simcoe’s leadership, has not only returned Cadillac to being “The Standard of the World,” but the support given to nurture the development of this machine speaks volumes about GM upper management’s commitment to projecting GM as an industry leader into the EV Age.

This just in: The CELESTIQ is simply spectacular.

 

It's all about proportions. Once we see both cars, we can then make an assessment.

 

Design walk around, '63 Lincoln Continental & Buick Riveria