FERRARI 288 GTO

I don't see anything negative about the car being polished up, it looks good and I am sure it drives as it did so outside of the price premium it's win/win

 

As time goes by I am more and more of an originalist. If a car does not need a restoration I'd rather not see it get one. To me Moss and Jenkinsons #722 looks the way it should, still grimy as when it was in the winners circle at the MM. While Manny De La Rossas' Barchetta may have taken it to the extreme how many perfect 166's do we really need?

While some might prefer how it looked when it started a race than when it finished, I may not agree but will not argue that point, to each their own. I do feel compelled to speak out when turned into some level of cosmetic perfection never achieved in their time. We should leave that for Chip Foose. Lauren Bacall later in her life modeled for a famous furriers catalog and was later asked her impression of the finished product. She said "I'm mad as hell. They airbrushed out my wrinkles. I earned them, I'm proud of them". Little wonder Bogart loved her. She was real.

 

I guess this topic is important enough for Pebble Beach to create Preservation Classes.

 

FCA has done it for quite some time. The overlap of people have helped create an appreciation of the importance of such cars.

 

What is being 'preserved' there? Does a 180 mile car look the same as an 1,800 mile car and is an 18,000 mile car on equal footing in 'preservation' if it is made to look like the 180 mile car?
Sounds great on paper...

 

Maybe you should do just a little research and have a modicum of understanding before asking dumb questions.

 

That's a really interesting thought experiment. Assuming all else being equal, does a 180 km car beat a 1,800 (or 18,000) km car in the preservation class, simply because it is more original, i.e. closer to how it was delivered when new? Or are points awarded for a car enduring more use while maintaining a preserved state?

As they say, there are no stupid questions, only...

 

All the information is in the public domain for anyone genuinely interested. Mileage is never a consideration in any of the FCA national concours events.
Rampant cheating is present in the events of those that do consider it. .

And yes there are stupid questions. Usually asked by those with no real interest in the answer.

 

A higher mileage car should indeed show more character and wear, but I think the point of preservation is to maintain original colors, specifications, finishes, textures etc.

 

I don't know if you have any particular antipathy for the question askers, but it seems to me, as an interested reader, that you have a lot of the answers. As someone who represents the judges here, would it kill you to inform us who are reading about it? Not everyone has the privilege of your experience, why not share it since you're a participant here anyway? As I see it, it makes for a more informed audience (again, beyond the person who originally asked the question), which in turn might just become a more appreciative audience, thus leading to better questions.

Just a thought.

 

When asked in a constructive fashion for help or information I have little issue. But when asked with such obvious disdain borne from willing ignorance I have little time for.

Rules for IAC/PFA, ICJAG, FCA and I suppose Pebble Beach as well in so far as they are different are all available on line and can explain more accurately and in greater detail than I ever could.

 

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Marcel Massini

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OMG Its going to shrink.

Those mirrors still make me crazy.

 

Despite a day of ongoing heavy rain.......

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That’s fantastic. GTOs must be driven !
I put the megaphonos back on mine, it sounds so good. Night and day compared with the original exhaust (which is properly stored of course!)

 

GTO 56339 coming to auction https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf22/london/lots/r0043-1985-ferrari-288-gto/1301221

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it is this GTO being demonstrated here:

 

One careful owner...............the rest of them maybe not!

 

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Marcel Massini

 

Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has actually run a tape measure (very carefully) over a GTO? The Ferrari stats all say 1910 overall width, but I have just measured one that we have in at present and it actually measures 1855 some 55mm narrower, I did the same to a 355 Spider that we have also and it is 1850 and the stats say 1900, again some 50mm narrower ? To be clear, we laid the tape on the ground just under the back of the rear tyre and sighted up vertically to outer most point of the rear bodywork, might have been out by a couple of mm but not 50!

 

Did you account for rear/side view mirrors

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This 288 GTO was displayed at Mugello last weekend for the Ferrari Challenge Europe, anybody aware of any history of this specific car, sorry I don't know the chassis number, but hopefully the Italian number plate will help identify it
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52745.
One owner car.

Marcel Massini

 

The mirrors don't actually stick out that far, and they are offset left to right, however one would usually fold them in to put into a transporter and thus are usually not included in max width stats, but I will measure today, this could be the discrepancy. Cheers

 

I wonder how many 1-owner 288 GTOs are thought to remain?

 

Okay, so today I measured the mirror width, tip to tip and on a slight angle as left is offset to right, distance 1860, so still 50mm short of 1910. I then remeasured both front and rear, Front 1800, Rear 1855, and now mirrors 1860, I have no idea how the stated overall with is 1910. Is anyone able to confirm or shed any light? Regards Doug