Your logic doesn't align with how the industry chooses talent. Karting and lower tear formula cars does not show a dominant advantage if you with top team. Still we see talent. Your view is a driver can only show talent in a midfield car. Both talent and lack of talent can be seen in a good car, or bad car. I stand by my statement. Hamilton has been hired in F1 for many years, not only that but with tops teams. So again they see something you fail to see, as they should.
Mercedes is the third fastest car. Quite a way to drop before Merc becomes midfield, but that doesn't stop Hamilton from crashing into Alonso or pressing the wrong buttons Russell is shining - he is much better at adapting than Hamilton.
Yeah, Alonso spends hours every week moaning about it on forums. No idea how he manages to find the time to race in F1 as an old man.
If Schumacher started off with a top team stayed with a top team, won say 9 championships. Broke all records. Accomplishmented what his teammates could not. Would you say Schumacher is great?
Well, first off, Mercedes in 2022 is NOT a "mid-field" car. A "mid-field" car, by definition would NOT be in the top 5. Second, this notion that ANYONE is taking a "mid-field" car and, by force of will/talent, getting it into a winning position (or even top 3), is an internet fantasy that requires a shocking level of luck/DNF's or crashes by multiple "good" cars, etc...
Was a fighting drive. Got the maximum from the package. Was truly not expecting Mercedes to be on row 2 or be capable overall in qualy today. Not the best day for Russell.
Surprised we are still debating this...the prevailing theory for 2022 was: put Sir Lewis in a less dominant car and against a more qualified teammate, and then we would see wether the GOAT talk was justified. Well, we got what we asked for, and then some. Lewis has looked pathetic at times, and brilliant at others (today for instance). Just like your average, incredible, talented F1 driver. He has been soundly outperformed by his teammate. He has spent a great deal of time fiddling with his nose jewelry. Hamilton: through 2020: a talented driver in a clearly, wildly superior car. The entire era of the first hybrid formula was sadly one-sided. Mercedes all day. Hamilton: 2021. Lot's of unforced errors in prior races made him vulnerable to lose the championship. Not GOAT territory, or even close to it. Champions control their own destiny through a season of performance. Hamilton: 2022: A talented driver in a less superior car, clearly and convincingly outscored by his teammate. Not GOAT territory. Overall view: Hamilton will be more remembered for his politics than his superiority as a driver. GOAT? Not even close.
Thank you for your kind correction. Much obliged! In the beginning of 2022 the Mecedes was a midfield car. Since then they improved the most of all teams. BTW, if the Mercedes is not a mid field car, why is a great driver as Hamilton not winning with it? Enlighten me, master......
Strangely the stats contradict everything you said. Or maybe someone misinterpreted your post again? In the beginning of 2022 and for the first 3 GPs, Mercedes was ranked 2nd in the WCC, and in front of Red Bull. From the 4th GP, Mercedes slipped to 3rd position, where it is still now, so they definitely never had a midfield car. FYI, the next team, Alpine is 146 points behind. But "don't get the facts get in the way of a good story" eh !
And what are the facts? Red Bull had reliability issues in the first 3 races and quite a number of DNF, which temporarily allowed a reliable but considerably slower Mercedes to be 2nd in the WCC. As soon as Red Bull had their act together, they moved to the top of the list. Performance wise the Mercedes was a midfield team then. They are #3 at the moment.
Lewis had his mentor Uncle Ron firmly in his corner. Ron expressed his preference of Lewis publicly. Poor Fernando didn't stand a chance
It started when Alonso signed for McLaren on the assumption that he would be the leading driver. Faced with a talented rookie in the team, he asked for preferential treatment but didn't get it. To his credit, Ron Dennis let his drivers fight; it did cost McLaren the title, but it was good for the sport. Because of that, Alonso was disruptive in the team almost from day one, according to insiders. Later Alonso helped the FIA during the enquiry regarding the Spygate and testified against McLaren. Of course, Ron Dennis was outraged by that lack of loyalty.
Loyalty? Alonso was coming as a double WDC and he signed because he believed he deserved a preferential treatment. I guess Ron agreed on that in 2006 .. The British based team Renault never talk about Alonso as a disruptive character. Problem was Lewis was too good to be a second driver even in his rookie year. Ron didn’t manage to deal with this situation and the outcome was disastrous for the team ..
I don't think Alonso was promised preferential treatment at McLaren, and certainly not against a rookie. In the past, Ron Dennis had top drivers in his team, and never gave preferential treatment to any of them. Lauda, Prost and Senna come to mind; they had to win on merit by beating their team mate, not through team orders. Unlike at Ferrari (or Red Bull) , giving preference to one driver is not the McLaren philosophy, just like it was at Williams. Alonso came with some feeling of entitlement, I guess, and realised not only Hamilton was good, but also not on a leash! For me 2007 was a memorable year, and the best for Hamilton.
Yes, because you are only a rookie for one year ! It's completely forgotten now, in the hybrid era, but Hamilton's arrival was like a bombshell in F1. As much as Kimi's controversial beginning in GP, after only 23 races (of any kind) under his belt.
Alonso's campaign was compromised, and there were subtle sabotages to his races in order to favour Lewis. Ron's primary motivation for hiring Alosno was to get the money from a Spanish Bank. Once the Spanish ££ was in the bag Uncle Ron pushed Lewis up as planned. Shrewd operator is Dennis
