Ferrari 812competizione + 812competizioneA Picture and News Thread

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That 308 number is a sticker; right.... right!?

 

First one to post the holly trinity. "The whole damn' screamin' bunch" (Guns n' roses - garden of Eden)

Nice find Spyros

 

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I am sure that there will be a heap more photos like this surfacing soon!

 

I am very happy to announce my Competizione just went to Stage 40. Probably finish in January with a February ship date and maybe a March delivery. Very excited about this car and sooner delivery than I was expecting. Not quite a Christmas present but close enough to get very excited. Cheers!

 

Can we have some driving impressions , especially how the Comp feels compared to the tdf ?

 

I am also stage 40 as of last week with a similar presumed timeline. Equally excited!

 

Civilized and composed. I can not really talk about it until I finish running in and drive it on track.

Tdf is special. Italian muscle car.


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Running in?
You mean starting her for the first time, waiting for oil temp and flooring her!?

 

500km under 5000 rpm, trying staying up above 3000rpm- done

Up to 700km 6000 rpm- where I am

Up to 900km 7000 rpm

Up to 1000km 8000 rpm and oil change

For me, this is running in.


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Do modern cars hugely benefit from being run in?

 

Depends on the manufacturer I suppose. However, manufacturers like Ferrari, Aston, and others don’t need a gentle break in. Then engines are already built “broken in”. In fact, when I did Corso Pilota, all the cars given to us that season were a new batch. I think the highest mileage one was an 812 with 18 miles on it. Those were all brand new cars from Ferrari straight to the track. No break in needed.

When someone asked, the tech confirmed “these engines are built to race. So go race!” Good enough for Ferrari, good enough for me.


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And yet those "cautious" first 1000 km is what many manufacturers (Ferrari among hen) recommend.

 

I go by what Porsche head advises.
I wish I could have found what he said on youtube but failed.

This is basically the same.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/706897-the-official-porsche-engine-break-in-running-in-instructions-3.html

- For the first couple of hundred miles drive the car gently; no high revs and don't let the engine labour. The main thing here is bedding in tyres and brakes.

- Up to around 500 miles, vary engine load and speed. Use perhaps 2/3rd of the rev range (when warm of course). No full throttle.

- Between 500 and 1,000 miles start to use more of the revs, and larger (occasional full) throttle openings. (I tend to up my rev limit 1,000 rpm per 100 miles.)

- Beyond 1,000 miles drive the car as you wish.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-gt2rs-and-911r/1118774-gt3-engine-break-in.html

Quote:
"I videoed AP's presentation, and here is what he said:
«I can only tell you how I personally do it, or how we do it at Weissach – for the first 500 kilometres or 300 miles, we don’t drive that car car ever over 5000 rpm, never. From then on, every 200 kilometres, we up the rpms by 500, so we end up at 1300, 1400 kilometres at the threshold before we can really go full throttle, at 800 or 900 miles.»
He then went on that this procedure was really important for the GT3 RS engines given their more «delicate» rings - and how important this break in really is for any of their engines.
Another point - he recommended to realign the car after 1000-1500 miles due to settling - especially since the tires are getting bigger and bigger, and more sensitive to changes. The RS apparently is really sensitive around this.
You figure the head of the GT program would give you the straight goods."


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No, this is not running in.
This is torture!

I can only tell you how it goes with the various race divisions of Ferrari; there is no braking in, period.
The brake in on my 488 Challenge was the following procedure: “ Press start. Car is broken in, now race!”

We do obviously bed in the brakes/brake pads, but thats 2 laps of deliberate braking and avoiding the curbs.

 

Race cars should have no break in because they rebuild engine. Cars I collect and care needs break in because I want to play safe. Not a single drop of oil is detected on cars I break in this way for 20 years so I stick to my method.

1000kms and oil change. Put it on track, full send and slide all over. Burning smell severely and tire thread gone confirms engine and brake break in is done. Go to tire shop, change tires to MPS4S and alignment check done. Car is good to go and really ready.

Now this For me is finished break in.





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You do know that all Ferrari engines are being run on a bench dyno for about half an hour, before being installed into the car, right? They hit maximum revs, in order to confirm that they make the advertised power (or more). If they don't, they go back to be rebuilt. So, every Ferrari engine has been revved to its redline even before it has reached its first owner... just saying.

 

Rosso TRS (Love that color. Should have been called "Rosso Sangue"

@mytoys , that car would sit perfectly in your garage !

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It’s true and like I said, no need to worry. Ferrari has broken in the engine before they give it to us. I’ve owned and taken many new Ferraris to the track. Not a drop of oil spilled either. The old problem of breaking in gently just isn’t needed anymore. But if some prefer to go slowly then there’s no harm on that too ‍♂️

Modern Ferrari engines are built like tanks. Drive them fast or drive them slow. It’s your car and it’ll be fine either way.


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Same engine as road legal ones….
But as stated here, if you feel this is what you need to do to break a car in; go for it.
I wouldn’t be able to restrict myself for the first 1000km…..