The position of my rear wheels doesn't look right

Did they drop the whole motor/sub-frame assembly in one piece like in a testarossa? That might explain what you're seeing. Mine is a testarossa so I'm not familiar with the 512TR engine-out protocol.

 

There will be some clearance (slop) between the bolts holding the engine mounts to the frame and both of those components -- so the repeatability of the engine in the frame is not super-precise. Even more if the engine mounts were removed from their brackets. And it's a 2X effect -- a difference going from 10mm to a difference of 4mm is only a side-to-side shift of 3mm of the engine.

 

what has the position from the engine /gearbox to do with the rearaxle? if the engine is a little more left or right nothing changes with the axle. the upper and lower arms are fixed to the frame, independently from the engine position.

different is when you see a testarossa. there you can put out the engine with the complete frame with the axle to the bottom. and I always said when you do this it needs an alignment when you put together all.

 

Good point -- had a brain cramp there (was wrongly thinking about the positions of the drive flanges on the gearbox). But the stiffness of the engine assembly, even on it's flexible mounts, probably isn't zero compared to the stiffness of the chassis so maybe removing and reinstalling the powerplant flexed things enough to move the outer fender shapes around some -- just a thought...

 

I wonder if RHD cars of that era were shifted to the opposite side.

 

Thats not really possible. I suspect it has more to do with suspension settling back to its normal position after being in the air combined with inconsistent measurement methodology.

For people wanting cookie cutter precision I typically suggest a Toyota Tercel.

 

I did a front bumper recess project for a client on his 308. Wanted the US spec car to look like a Euro. When I tried to fit the bumper into the body opening, I found the bumper mounts on the frame were 15mm off. If I mounted the bumper straight off the frame, it was 15mm offset to one side and hit the body. After a lot of inspection, I just made custom brackets that moved it over. There was no evidence of any damage or repair. The client had owned the car for many many years and had the history before that. We are sure it wasn't crashed and certainly not bad enough for the front of the car to be that far off. However, we are sure of the "hand" made aspect of the early cars and just decided it was how the car was built. I suspect the OP car is something like that. It is just built a little off.

 

Don't knock the Tercel - it was called Corsa in Japan.

 

hand made cars ! ! ! so nothing with a fabrication line. giovanni had too much lambrusco the day before, pedro had a bad day and luigi was tired. but all working on the same car

 

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I think Brian's main point may have been missed. The shocks and to some degree the bushings will cause different measurements from when the car was operating and driven for years to when the car unloaded, rested and reassembled. Driving the car more 200 miles may change the measurement again after it fully loads and unloads and torques several times. But I also agree the hand assembled motor cars can have a lot of deviation.

 

Our TR has about 20,000 on it, we have owned it since it had 1000 miles. Has never been wrecked. LR wheel sticks out maybe 3mm and fender on RR sticks out maybe 8mm further than tire. Pretty standard deviations for the period.

Like I said....Toyota Tercel will solve his hand wringing.

Never measured ours till yesterday because after 40+ years in Ferrari business I fully accept such signs of hand craftsmanship as a "No extra charge" feature.

 

I had the same problem...
I brought it to Vito Delmonico..
He fixed it Good! and added 1000 extra HP

Quote Vito:
I ma gonna fixa you upa Real Good!

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Enzo Ferrari: Symmetry is for people who cannot build engines.

 

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That's a great picture!

 

Quality control info from GB Progetti.




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