Texas Barn Find! #05810

I can't believe how fast you're working on this car. You just got it and it's already apart!

 

All I have in my records was it was 7824. It was for sale in 2018 and was located somewhere between Spicewood and Llano.

Dave Olimpi may still have his contact info.

 

As I suggested before; "What's wrong with MR. Lee's 400HP Dino", NOTHING!!!
Maybe it is time we all welcome all Dino's into the fold, modernized or not? An example I used was historic homes. Noone shuns homes with total updating of essentials; plumbing, electric etc. So should we accept updated dino's like Mr. Lee's! Yeah for OMG JON.

 

Sold by Gooding at 2019 Amelia Island auction.

I know somebody that was there and was a bidder on it, with the price being low, I asked how come it did not sell for higher, and he made a comment about how you should have seen it up close.

 

I just looked up the catalog. I have no idea how in the one photograph it could have been made to look that good. It might have had a quicky paint job because the car in my shop looked nowhere near that. Either that or Goodings is resorting to Photoshop.

And the auction description is a work of fiction.

 

I can't say I'm much of a fan for Mr. Lee's Dino, however what Jon is doing is very similar to what Newman does with the BB series. These cars will all go another 50 years after the restoration.

 

In your experience do structural changes like side marker deletion negatively impact resale value? One of the reasons I got a Euro was I didn’t like the US lighting changes but was concerned about deleting them impacting the car’s value.

 

I have owned my GT since 1974. In 1996 I started my slow restoration. I never thought I would own a new car for so long that I would need to restore it- but cracking paint and rust forced my hand. Twelve years later I was done.

When faced with restoring back to USA stock or Euro I went Euro. It was not as straightforward as I thought it would be. It took many tries to correctly fabricate the "very simple" front turn signals sheet metal. I also installed headlight covers, did not correctly paint the bottom satin black, and did not install the Euro side lights. So a Euro mongrel.

Well, the truth is I would have painted the satin black correctly-but every time I taped off the cut lines on the front nose, I just could not make it look correct enough so I just did the rocker panels.

My reasons for going Euro were that I prefer the purity of the Euro look, and It is my Dino and I can do what I want with it. I am at an advantage since I have owned mine for so long that I did not have to worry about losing my "investment" by my modifications.

If I was restoring it now-- I would go Euro again. I did save all of the USA turn signal sheet metal and all of the US bits if some future owner wants to change it back.

I remember when Jon began restoring Dinos as a passion. I believe that on one of his early restorations, he created a "flairs and chairs" reproduction. I guess we could look at what it has sold for recently-if it has changed hands-as to a guide to what the current market punishes Dinos which have been modified.



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I am all for evolution but prefer detail and if I can keep it within the grounds of its originality then I will.

What I dont understand is we berate cars & their owners that dont have matching engine numbers, gearbox or body numbers etc etc yet accept a V8 conversion with open arms. My biggest pet hate is the stupid reference to "low mileage" car for sale. Nothing worse than a low mileage classic car for seized parts.

 

Its a big group of people. I think you will find extremely few who both accept an engine conversion and berate lack of matching numbers. You are referring to two distinctly different groups.

I have been in the Ferrari service business for a very long time and have experienced many and in fact bought a very low mileage car. The negatives are often overblown to the extreme and the positives in many cases far outweigh them. There are as many variables in the statement as there are individual cars and the blanket statement could not be more misleading.

 

Except on specific historically important cars there has never been a very high degree of resistance to color changes provided the color is kept to an appropriate one. Most easily reversed changes meet similar acceptance. Dinos are not terribly rare so a few being restored to inexact configuration is not the end of the world. It not like modifying a Superfast or something. The upside of many cars being brought out and saved from rotting away far out weighs any of that in my opinion and I am an Honors level concours judge and former member of the IAC/PFA preservation board.

 

As you judge the Ferrari, what do you give for points when you see the wiring bundle is changed out and new does not have correct markings?
The Dino has the Cavis authentic wiring with each wire markings easy for judge to see right by fused boxes.
The judge does not have any effort to examination of these when hood is open but in these restorations original copper wires are gone...and their original markings

 

Incorrect wiring would be a deduction. Correct wire with correct tracers are available.

A friend in Virginia makes reproduction harnesses with all correct wire including fabric insulated if correct and fabric bundled if correct.

I do not believe in the case of these Dino's he has made any claim of being concours correct, in fact the opposite is true so what is your point? .


In fact, most restorations that are claimed to be concours correct are not. Nothing new there. A few regular posters to this board claim to restore cars yet never subject them to peer review so who knows how accurate their claim is? This is nothing like those examples.

 

Mark, I love the look of the red-painted front pan, coupled with the headlight covers and the wiper removal. Bravo! Fred

 

Am sat here in freezing London, and was longingly looking at some real estate in LLano earlier today.. maybe I should ask the vendors if they have any interesting old wrecks in their barns

 

You should advise mods when you do that so we can watch the carnage.

 

Llano is a nice area. A friend lives on a few acres right on the river.

 

If Fred Thompson objects to your colour change Jon I wonder what sort of rage he will fly into over this car I discovered on instagram this morning pictured at a London car wash centre. Non original Dino colour, seats trimmed in a non-factory way with coloured inserts on the head rests, lower blacking lines missing and the Cromodora wheels painted black.

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