LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Let's see, LaF was in close competition with 918 and P1, this time there are much faster competitors, especially concerning downforce, so the major focus will be there, hopefully they surprise the whole automotive world

 

Weight, Downforce and Braking is key to performance and overall handling improvements.

 

the f250 will beat the valk fairly easily I think as long as they develop a specific tyre just for it

 

True, although there's not so much you can develop concerning road legal tyres, since 2013, it's basically being all down to: equip the latest Pirelli Trofeo R like Pagani or mount the latest Michelin Cup2 R like Porsche.

 

ou know an owner who will exploit his full potential, introduce him to me !
The engine of the Valkyrie is a bottle of Petrus, that of 250 a wine from the supermarket...
So performance numbers, what does it matter...

 

Agree.
Car is engine and design.

I want a car not a tool.


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Why this comparison? Is the Valk. engine that special? Not that Ferrari engines are crap... So honestly asking here.

 

Yes


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Why?

 

The two engines are not comparable, that of the Valkyrie is far ahead, if you like mechanics...

 

What do you think about the design of the car? @day355

 

There is no doubt that the high-revving N/A V12 is the King of engines and that's why the Valyrie's bespoke engine is so special. This doesn't diminish the technology of the Ferrari V6 TT, which recently won the Le Mans race after all! There is nothing pedestrian about it either!

 

No comments, thank you

 

grazie lo stesso

 

no doubt, just making the point that the valk is so extreme that the actual limiting factor is the cup2 r's, which is a bit nuts really

 

Regular Cup 2s, not Rs.The car was developed with the regular Cups, as the Rs hadn't been released yet. Aston say that it can run the generic Rs, but they would be good only for a handful of laps, since they are more akin to a qualifying tyre.

 

https://www.motor1.com/news/675055/ferrari-hypercar-new-spy-shots/

 

true but all benchmark laps are set with r's and aston put r's on the car when they gave it to Sport Auto when they test it on the Bahrain GP circuit (to which it set a production lap record)

 

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the F250 engine won le mans. What won the Valkyrie? I'll answer you in Italian I'm sure you understand: stocazz

 

That doesn’t make it a better or more advanced engine. GT40s also won Le Mans and I think their engines were nowhere near as charismatic as Ferrari V12s.
Not saying that the F250 engine is rubbish, however the engines in the Valkyrie and T50 are pretty special.


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sure, because the advanced v12 10krpm of the aston would be able to hold up that pace for 24 hours without being ripped apart and without having to constantly stop to refill since it drinks like a troublesome drunk. LMAO. Different pov of what is rubbish
The Ferrari engine will tear it to pieces, both from the point of view of torque delivery and from the point of view of acceleration, since you care so much about "numbers".
The only thing a na v12 can do compared to a turbo even with smaller displacement is just one: get kicked. The only thing a na v21 can do is scream like a maniac (while being kicked.)

 

Good debate, enjoying this one, see merit on both sides..

 

Not true. The new Ferrari hypercar may be quicker, but that won't be due to the TT V6 (if indeed it has a V6), but its overall hybrid power. The N/A V12 of the Valkyrie will surely be more powerful than a smaller turbocharged engine (as seen in the SF90 Stradale XX, for example).

 

A naturally aspirated V12 vs a turbo always loses in torque and "muscles" at lower RPM, and this is what pushes you forward vehemently. But apart from that I didn't know that the performances had to be split on the "pieces" of the car , I thought that the performance was... performance