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  1. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Monaco should be off the calendar. The time has past for that street circuit. Max was some 2-3+ seconds/lap faster than Rus and could not get by. What a sleeper!
     
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  2. william

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    Yep, it's too narrow, the straights are too short, so no safe overtaking can take place, DRS or not.
    It must be so demotivating for someone who has a performing car, but a bad grid slot for whatever reason.
    As there is no mechanical attrition anymore (everything if computer managed), there is nothing to do but follow the car in front. It's time we stop calling Monaco a race, even less a Grand Prix. It's insulting.
     
  3. 11506apollo

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    Max, tell RBR to order ( not build.... order, because RBR does not build anything) a much smaller car....so you can squeeze by, and pass others.
     
  4. 11506apollo

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    It takes inteligence and sensitivity , as shown by Peter Windsor, to recognize and appreciate what a great race this was.
     
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  5. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKK
     
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  6. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    PW was just a wind bag. I just about feel asleep him talking about a sleeper of a race. Monoco is a qualy challenge then a citizenship test to cleanly complete the parade laps cleanly. A "race" it is not.

    I laughed at PWs comment on Rus tire management skill. Honestly...what skill? Rus drove to the teams computer derived laptime delta. In Olympic skating they used to have "figures" as part of the competition. It was like which skater had the best penmanship. Monaco is the "penmanship test" of F1.
     
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  7. jjmalez

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    No thanks to ESPN on the replay. Women's college softball?

    Fail.
     
  8. crinoid

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  9. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    I thought that was the case. The only passing that went on was the result of pit stops; I saw no passes on track among the top 10. And the futility was shown by the fact that Max caught up to Russell very quickly but never could find a way by, which was probably comforting to the first four runners. Truly the Grand Procession de Monaco. The only thing that made it worth watching was the satisfying result, and Charles should be congratulated for never putting a foot wrong in spite of the pressure in his mirrors.
     
  10. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I have'nt seen one.
     
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  11. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    The only other Monegasque to win his home Grand Prix was Louis Chiron, and that was in 1931, 93 years ago. Prince Albert looked delighted to be able to give the winner's trophy to one of his subjects, and Charles looked equally delighted to accept it. And I'm certain the brass band was happy to be able to play their own national anthem (followed, of course, by the Ferrari mechanics singing theirs!).
     
  12. Gatorrari

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    I think that Carlos Sainz and Fred Vasseur should take Sergio Perez and Kevin Magnussen to dinner, since without their little get-together, there is no way that Carlos could have finished third!
     
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  13. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Seriously?
     
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  14. piolaxo

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    No, it means that he already signed for one more year...! :rolleyes:

    He was driving alright to get his contract renewed.
     
  15. itschris

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    Maybe Monaco should just be some sort of time trial… 3 flying laps each or something. The way it stands now is a joke. Or build one off exhibition cars. 1000hp NA v10s I’m a car half the size and weight.

    either way… this was an embarrassing race for F1. As far as Perez goes, I sorting changed my mind a bit when I saw it from behind and how he drifters way to the right and squeezed KMag. I don’t know. I’m just not impressed with Checo at all these days. And way to show the world the magic underneath the car… again. It’s time for him to go to a mid pack team and open the seat.
     
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  16. Whisky

    Whisky Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I've seen passing before, it's not our fault the regulations have made it
    a much harder place to pass.

    Change the dumbass rules, put car size back to what they were 30 years ago,
    stop ANY tire 'mandates' or limits, stop the dumbass 'DRS' trash.

    In theory, with all of your controls on a steering wheel it should be easier to pass,
    because back when there were actual shifters and a clutch (pedal) the races were better.

    It's not our fault the FIA has really turned F1 into a manned video game.
     
  17. jpalmito

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    Cars are way too big.
    This is the main problem to my opinion.
    Qualifying session Saturday is one of the most exciting moment during the season.
    How many absolutely boring races in Barcelona the last 15 years?
    Monaco should remain with some specifics adjustments maybe.
     
  18. jpalmito

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    Who cares ?
    Frankly bad luck was often on our side the last few years.
    I will take this one without any sense of guilt ;)
     
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  19. piolaxo

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    I'd have to disagree. The reason Checo turned is because he was preparing to take the left hander ahead, like everyone else (see attached).
    Yes, he checked his mirror, but I'd think that he is not expecing Magnussen to press forward. What are the chances of overtaking there,
    specially if he's not even side to side to him. It's like when doing an overtake in 130R in Japan. You either commit (Magnussen) or you back off.
    He didn't and there was nowhere to go.

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  20. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    But….but …. The Harbour the ‘glamour’ and George Lucas lol. :)
     
  21. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Good win. Any team would be pleased
     
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  22. Remy Zero

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    Happy for a Shaarl win. But seriously, what a horrible track and race. There's been 1 overtaking i think...
     
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  23. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    This. Monaco has to stay as it’s the jewel in every sponsors crown, and as anyone who has done a sponsor event will know, they aren’t there to watch the sport, but to entertain their guests (with wine, food and glamour).

    The track can’t be physically changed, so the only option is to make the cars smaller. Even that won’t make this a classic race, but it would at least allow a few overtakes. Today’s cars are absolute monsters - and all in the name of green washing. Shame.
     
  24. Shorn355

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    Monaco is iconic and Historical- despite the stupid "chicane" coming out of the tunnel the morons set up it is up there with Monza and Spa
     
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