Second Amendment saves lives-AGAIN!!!

I don't hate guns. If you live in the country ( like I did for a while) you need a gun and a dirt bike to have some fun. If you live in the big city, a gun is seems silly. I'd rather call security in my complex, or the police if my alarm goes off.


For every one gun hero story..... you get thousands of gun crime and gun victum stories. Our news doesn't even cover gun shooting and acident cases anymore....too common. They don't have enough time everyday on a 22min news cast. Most are with-in the household and kids playing, or spouses in fights... not news worthy anymore.

Yet if a guy saves himself with a gun. It is sooo rare it gets a story for a few days on the news and even a post on a car chat site.

 

3 shots into the chest? Why waste two bullets and not just split his head in half with a single shot?

 

Chris Rock has the best ideas..


DON'T control guns. You can't control guns!!
(you have to say this the way Chris Rock talks "yells" )

"But I'll tell you what" If you make bullets cost $5,000 each....

-you won't have anymore inocent by-standers ever getting shot again.
-you won't have 7/11's robbed when the bullet cost more then the cash in the drawer.
-guys will have to hate each other way way way more before they pull that triger and spend $5k

Chris Rock made this bit very funny. Sorry I can't write as funny as he preformed this.

 

"That's what the gun control crowd always says."

Because its true.

The NRA thinks the media and the people of this land are out to get them.

So here's a suggestion. Screw the press and the statistics. We go down to the Emergency Room on a Friday night ( in Tampa, LA, Miami, Boston, ) pick a city....

We can count how many gun shot victums come in.
Maybe 40 a night if you're in a big city (Fri or Sat night).
We can ask them how many are accidents or domestic problems.

 

Arlie: moderation and UNDERSTANDING what the other side is saying isn't going to kill you. NO ONE said to abolish the 2nd amendment. Get over it.

Good points by Mark and Art (Mark - I did see the bit. Very amusing ).

--Dan

 

Arlie,

Does the city you live in have a water tower?

 

Arlie,
That article is a pretty trivial exmple. Maybe you should post the other ten articles where innocent people were accidentally shot. Where six year old kids took guns to school for show and tell and accidentally shot another kid.

I'm against idiots owning guns. And the only thing that protects people from idiots is some amount of gun control. You're right that criminals will find a weapon, but what about the dumbass that knows nothing about guns, buys a pistol for protection that will shoot through two wall and lives in an apartment. Could a required safety course teach that guy that maybe that pistol isn't the best choice?

 

i want all of the naysayers to go to a gun shop and try to buy a gun.( especially a handgun) its not that easy anymore. and dont start the " gun show" BS with me either. you cannot buy a gun at a public or private show or auction unless you fill out all the many forms and pass a background check. now if you buy more than one or two guns a year you HAVE TO get a state issued permit / license or you will sit there waiting for ???? how long for the " government " to say its ok. i have seen police officers and military personnel be forced to wait for hours and they carry firearms " on the job". as far as " 6 year olds / children getting killed" yes that is terrible. but the parents are to blame not the " gun". i hope to God that i never have to use a weapon of any type on anyone. but i would rather have it and never never need it.... than NEED! it and not have it. from your local police... to the ATF the problem is the lack of enforcement of exsisting laws.

 

It has nothing to do with preventing crazy people getting weapons IMHO. It's a "canard" meant to prevent the sane people from defending themsevles against a certain form of government.

"That" argument, namely, that we can't let guns fall into the hands of crazy people is the only argument the left wing has. Problem is, crazy people "generally" do not buy their weapons and fill out the paperwork all the while waiting patiently for days, like 99% of the law abiding gun owning population does. They merely buy a gun on the street.

Here in Canada we have more knife crime than gun crime, because criminals will be criminals and use whatever they can get, whenever they can get it. So I guess we can be held as a model for gun control........but not for crime prevention. There is enough logic out there like "this" to defeat the argument about crazy people getting guns.

In any event, gun crime here in Calgary is on the rise and the cause of that in and of itself is a topic for another thread about why the right is right and the left is wrong on this issue.

It has everything to do with "those" who wish to implement "communism lite".....currently marketed under the brand name of "socialism" as the preferred form of government. With a disarmed society they can do whatever they please. Call me crazy.....but before I start pulling up the historical quotes to support that statement, which BTW have already been posted here before, consider that the framers of your constitution were wise enough to put the "right to bear arms" content of the second amendment directly after the content of the "right to free speech" in the first.

Too bad the guy lived......what did he shoot him with anyways.......a .22 ?

 

We'll lets see,

a) we make it (basically) impossible for them to hold a job (check),
b) we cast them out on the street because they can't pay the rent (check),
c) they have no place to obtain edible food (check)

Thats why we shoud prevent them from getting guns!

I think the issue is something other than guns here. The issue is "what kind of society we want to live in". Is it one with compassion and support, or one of dog-eat-dog? I see a lot of the later and little of the former.

 

Go get'em Doc!!!!!! I hope he dies!!!! Be a good lesion for the others!!!!!!


Mitch, you should try being a cop in a big city sometime. Its a real eye opener. 9/10ths of those I had to deal with were decidedly not crazy, just mean.

DrS

 

Interesting that someone here views the framers of your constitution as being on "the fringe" and that they should be "dealt with accordingly".

Maybe they can elaborate if that was who they were talking about, since I do not see any reference to "control" in the Second Amendment......if anything they should look up the word "infringed" since that word is present in it's place.

 

"The framers of the constitiution where "farmers".
You need a gun to shoot at crows in the corn patch, foxes in the chickens coop, and keep the rabbits away from the greens.

Today less then 4% of the people are farmers.
Funny thing about the passage of 200 years time.... things change."

Mark, plinking at rabbits is not what they had in mind. Neither was putting food on the table. The central idea was the ability to resist a tyrannical government. You have to remember that while some things do change, many do not. Governments have a long history of taking rights and property no matter how well intended their beginnings. The framers knew this and central to their thinking was the last line of defense againt a government out of control.