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EBAY 308/208 twin turbos 500 RWHP?"

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  1. Brunello

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  2. RP

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    If it has been sorted out properly, this would be a fun car for the price. Its not a GTO, will never be a GTO, probably can't be used for FNA functions.

    If you wreck it, you can replace the body as the molds used are still in captivity. Carpenter did a good job with most of these GTO copies.
     
  3. GrigioGuy

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    The owner's an Fchatter, I'm sure he'd be willing to talk to a serious bidder.
     
  4. greg328

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    Absolutely frickin' awesome.... baddest car I've ever seen!!
     
  5. NYCFERRARIS

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    and probably a good investment..look at the crazy , insane prices for these ridiculous Dodge Hemi and Pontiac GTO "recreations" or whatever fancy name the Rick Cole or BJ auctioneers have for these replicas....the market is insane and doesn't seem to car... the F-GTO is a rare car..and I think the 308 is the most loved and recognized F-car that this replica ..if well done...might be a good deal. Who knows....as I have said before "experts" talked me out of a Dino 246....so now my policy is to never sell a F-car ( a snail slow 82 308GTSi was my sole exception)
     
  6. 4re308

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    Fast or not fast, I HATE 288 GTO replicas!! They NEVER look right and you ain't fooling no one with that junk. Too bad about ruining a 308 for that monstrosity.
     
  7. pmorin

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    Really? I think that replica could fool alot of people, just with the correct rear decklid (sp?)

     
  8. F1Ace

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    I must have that car.....
     
  9. racespecferrari

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    I would hardly call that junk, at least its got the engine to match, I've seen loads of 288 bodies on 308's but still with bog standard engines, at least this goes as fast as its looks
     
  10. RP

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    Most GTO replicas do not change the orientation of the engine. They leave it as it came in the 308/328. Jim Carpenter did actually do some excellent work. His molds were first class. I know because I bought the molds for the 288 GTO Evoluzione replica he built. Nothing cheap here. He took the time to make his longitudinal engined replicas as close to the real car as possible.

    This car may not apprciate as much as a real GTO, but for the money, it would be one heck of a fun drive. Whoever buys it is getting a deal.

    I would hope though that they present the car as a modified 328, and nothing more.
     
  11. Ken

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    To each his own. Yes, it's a pretty car, but a fake car. I would rather have a real 308 than a fake 288. Anyone who doesn't know it's fake will be impressed anyway, and the true fans will laugh because it's fake.

    This particular example seems to need a fair amount of sorting out still. Better have $20k for "incidentals" if driving this fake is in your future.

    Ken
     
  12. F1Ace

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    It will be interesting to see if it sells. While it is a "no expense spared" car, it is a 77, and that can weigh heavily against you.

    It's like a Porsche 930 look. Built on a 77 who wants it? On an 87...well, that's a different matter.
    In this case I, personally, don't have much issue with the year.
     
  13. smg2

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    how do you classify it? 'kit' car 'replicar' ? it still is a ferrari body and what 90% chassis along with a ferrari motor and gearbox. at the end of the day i wouldn't drive a real 288GTO on the street due to its value, but this i would flog with impunity. how is it any different than the old mondials and 250 TRs that are rebuilt from a wrecked chassis and all thats left is the steering box? why is that car better?
    i'm not sure i follow the thought on this one, it was built to match a 288GTO and by looks is nearly 100% correct. it's a 308 chassis used to build a 'prototype' if you will, no different than what the factory did. only in this case it wasn't the factory, but i'm still lost on the snubbing ones nose at it. it's not a GM or any other car put together to be a 288 but an accutual ferrari.

    doesn't bother me in the least that it's not the real 288 with heritage.
    just my 2cents on it.
     
  14. racespecferrari

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    Utter Rubbish!
    genuine Ferrari, proper turbo engine & body, just not 288 on documents
     
  15. racespecferrari

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    I agree 100%

    I would Love this car
     
  16. racespecferrari

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    Out of interest what would you rather have,
    1, A genuine 288 Gto
    2, This car which is bascially the same, looks & performance etc.., but $100k+ in your pocket but 308 on the documents

    I would rather have the 2nd, not forgetting the 288 was spawned from the 308
     
  17. Jagbuff

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    I was going to stay out of the discussion since I am quite bias but I take offense with the above posting.

    First let me say that nearly all the Ferrari OWNERS that I have met – and I have met quite a few since I am part of the local FCA - have always been very nice and interested about the car and think that it is a very well executed project. The only negative comments I receive are from folks that don't own a Ferrari (ie Wannebes owners – category under which you seem to belong) or a small minority who revere the 308 as the epitome of styling and Ferrari design and think - probably because of the rarity of the 308 ;) - that it should not be in anyway modified (usually those are the same folks that can’t afford anything else). I don’t know about you but the DOT bumper on the 308 are fugly – why anyone would want to keep that as original is beyond me.

    Second I bought this car four years ago instead of a 355 because I wanted something more visceral and unlike maybe Ferrari posers who spend more time polishing than driving, I wanted to track the car (which I did - amazingly fast – and too much car for someone like me used to Formula Continental). It then went in for a full engine rebuild and unfortunately after that I do not get to use the car anymore because of other more important priorities (kids). I have still enjoyed collecting bits of real GTOs because it is a piece of history! My car is not a real 288 GTO nor will it ever be one, nor do I try to pass it off as such since it has the GTB badge on it (It had a GTO badge but I removed it and stored it in the garage). In any event, 90% of the population can’t tell the difference between a Fiero and a 308, and even the more knowledgeable folks have never heard of the GTO. When I posted it on Ebay I took the poetic license to call it a conversion or replica because it is not a 308 as the engine orientation is different as are the body panels – no misrepresentation intended – anyone thinking they can get a real 288 GTO for less than $100K is smoking something.

    Finally, I am very annoyed with your silly comment about the car needing $20K to be sorted out – can you explain how you came up with that number? What does “sorted out” mean anyway? My car is probably the best conversion out there, call Norwoods or Morespeed to verify, unless you have performed a PPI and have a list of specific items that need to be corrected I would very much appreciate that you reserve your silly comments to yourself and stop spreading disinformation.
    Franck
     
  18. racespecferrari

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    I agree with you totally, the car you own is a superb 'recreation', to me a 'fake' is a crap copy with a 4 cylinder engine i.e. mr2/355, anyway there are a few jealous ones who are always willing to knock, and 9 times out of 10 they don't OWN a Ferrari, there is a Yellow Daytona replica that races in the Uk ferrari Challenge and it gains a huge amount of admirers and interest, I put you 308/288 in the same category, I just wish I had the money spare as I would jump at it, as you say its totally different & unique although I love 355's this would be in my garage anyday
     
  19. selvatico

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    After reading the description, I think it's going to be a great car for someone. It has over $250K into it and is being sold for far less then half that.

    Even though it's not a real GTO, I agree that it's a fantastic recreation with performance to back up those looks.
     
  20. don_xvi

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    I'D BUY IT... if it was in my affordability range!
     
  21. PhilB

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    This will sound selfish, but as the owner of a pristine '84 QV, whenever I see one of these I think a few years down the road, when there are only a few original 308s left.

    Not that I could ever part with mine, but my kids will have something quite valuable one day.

    As for the car itself, I would rather have it than some common alternatives (don't get me wrong, I love vettes and mustangs too). But the replica/kit/copy is not common, and most people won't know one way or the other if its a real GTO or even if its a real 308.

    My $.02,
    Phil
     
  22. buzzm2005

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  23. Jagbuff

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    that is truly a car with a checkered past - I do not mean that in a disparaging sense - do a quick Google search on the original owner Mel Spillman (sp?) and you will see what I mean... talking about stealing money for the dead, it's a story that is hard to believe... what certain people will do to own a Ferrari!
     
  24. ferraripete

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    interesting as you say. the gto conversion was 1 of several nice car that mel had amassed.

    incidentally, your car is a very, very nice ferrari! period!!
     
  25. 96cobrakid

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    That car is absolutly gorgious. There would be nothing I would like more than that right now. If I had 90K laying around, I would wire the money site unseen and buy that car. Gorgious gorgious ride!
     

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