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Can you say SCAM?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by JSL, Oct 9, 2006.

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  1. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    It seems to be a pretty detailed auction. Other than a rediculously low price is there anything that makes it a dead giveaway scam? I noticed you have to qualify to bid plus you have to pay in person. Does this mean you disappear when it's time to pay for it?
     
  2. Webby

    Webby F1 Veteran

    Sep 12, 2004
    6,821
    The low price and the fact that you have to pay in CASH in person. The fact that he has 3 other cars at stupidly low prices (all pictured in different locations), the fact that the only items he sold before were blood glucose test strips (to build up some positive feedback)
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124307
    Maybe somebody should check the VIN: ZFFYT53A330134017
     
  3. onyx2002

    onyx2002 Karting

    Jun 3, 2006
    78
    Scenic Maricopa, AZ
    Full Name:
    Eric
    Maybe we can offer to pay more with a cashiers check that was already made out to buy another car but the deal fell through....
     
  4. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 1, 2004
    7,776
    Redondo Beach, CA
    Full Name:
    Bruce Bogart
    Maybe he would accept a wire from my bank in Nigeria. I used to be..... He'd need to put up a small deposit of earnest money of course...
     
  5. 1_can_dream

    1_can_dream F1 Veteran

    Jan 7, 2006
    8,051
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Kyle
    I'm sending my agent with a cashiers check for $87,464.23. He will then cash the check and keep the extra cash for his troubles and then my agent will take delivery of the car.
     
  6. blainewest

    blainewest Formula Junior

    Aug 26, 2005
    729
    Kelowna, BC
    Full Name:
    Blaine W
    Somebody email him and ask to view the car, get an address and phone number. You'll know pretty fast if it's a scam.
     
  7. James in Denver

    James in Denver Formula 3

    May 23, 2006
    2,136
    Centennial Colorado
    Full Name:
    James in Denver
  8. Bab

    Bab Formula 3

    Dec 4, 2004
    1,143
    Moncton/Montreal
    Full Name:
    Christian
    Rear Challenge grill? I don't see that.

    Beautiful car though, I adore Rosso Fiorano.
     
  9. Kds

    Kds F1 World Champ

    WOW !!!!! Orange Daytona seats !!!!!
     
  10. drjohngober

    drjohngober Formula 3

    Jul 23, 2006
    2,040
    Cville and Gbury Tex
    Full Name:
    Dr.John Gober
    I think myself and some of the good ole F-Chat boys from Houston ought to go do a visual and teach him a lesson in Texas Justice with a royal a$$whoopin!
     
  11. wetpet

    wetpet F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    May 3, 2006
    10,210
    i was gonna get it, but i don't like orange. by the way, it's not in houston, it's in a shipping container in another country. as soon as he has the cash, he'll ship it to ya.
     
  12. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa

    Jul 14, 2003
    61,114
    In front of you
    Full Name:
    BCHC
    When I saw this I just figured it was a typo. Add a 1.
     
  13. sammyb

    sammyb Formula 3

    Jun 23, 2006
    1,857
    Where wife tells me
    Full Name:
    Sam
    He went through the trouble of buying stuff (his own auctions, I'm sure) to get the 100-percent feedback. Of course, he looks pretty stupid buying Playstation games and glucose test strips and then selling five highline cars.
     
  14. GordonF355

    GordonF355 Formula 3

    Aug 13, 2005
    1,017
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Full Name:
    Gordon
    scam alert! Wow, those orange seats and dash are butt ugly! Yikes!!!!
    gordon
     
  15. spiderseeker

    spiderseeker Formula 3

    Jul 22, 2005
    1,718
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Steve
    Here is the Vin #-
    ZFFYT53A330134017
    can anyone run a carfax and see where the car is supposed to be now ?
    Maybe a flood (Katrina car)
     
  16. Tipo815

    Tipo815 F1 Rookie

    Nov 1, 2003
    3,565
    Newport Beach, CA
    Full Name:
    Jeffrey
    I wired him $80,000 for the car, and extra $5,000 for the 30k service, $2,000 for shipping, and $300 for a detail. Since he received my money I haven't been able to reach him ... did I get scammed? ;)
     
  17. Tipo815

    Tipo815 F1 Rookie

    Nov 1, 2003
    3,565
    Newport Beach, CA
    Full Name:
    Jeffrey
    Last registered in Arizona a year ago.
     
  18. GCalo

    GCalo F1 Veteran

    Sep 15, 2004
    7,645
    Northern California
    Full Name:
    Greg Calo
    I would buy with confidence wouldn't you?
     
  19. GCalo

    GCalo F1 Veteran

    Sep 15, 2004
    7,645
    Northern California
    Full Name:
    Greg Calo
    Isn't this is the guy who robbed the "Sack of Suds" quickstop in My Cousin Vinney!

    Challenge grille?

    I don't see a challenge grille unless the seller means that "it's a challenge to see the grille"!
     
  20. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

    Feb 16, 2003
    14,656
    The fabulous PNW
    Full Name:
    Han Solo
    An appropriate price of 80k if it had 60k on it instead of 6k


    2003 FERRARI 360 SPIDER/SPIDER F1
    ZFFYT53A330134017
    CONVERTIBLE
    3.6L V8 FI DOHC 40V / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
    Standard Equipment | Safety Options


    • 2 owners
    • Last reported mileage - 3,100 miles

    Year purchased 2003 2006
    Type of owner Personal ---
    Estimated length of ownership 2 yrs. 8 mo. 11 days
    Owned in the following states/provinces Maryland Arizona
    Estimated miles driven per year --- ---
    Last reported odometer reading 2,955 3,100





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    found 5 record(s) for this 2003 FERRARI 360 SPIDER/SPIDER F1 (ZFFYT53A330134017).




    Purchased: 2003
    Type: Personal
    Where: Maryland
    Est. miles/year: ---
    Est. length owned: 11/12/03 - 8/5/06
    (2 yrs. 8 mo.)



    Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
    10/15/2003 73 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
    11/12/2003 Maryland
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Registered as
    personal vehicle
    11/12/2003 93 Maryland
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Title #33868400 Registration issued or renewed
    First owner reported
    08/05/2006 2,955 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale





    Purchased: 2006
    Where: Arizona
    Est. miles/year: ---
    Est. length owned: 9/28/06 - present
    (11 days)



    Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
    09/28/2006 3,100 Arizona
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Title #352M006271004 Title or registration issued
    New owner reported

    Sounds like a good one, where do I sign up?
     
  21. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

    Feb 16, 2003
    14,656
    The fabulous PNW
    Full Name:
    Han Solo
    Ironically, this car was first owned by a doctor. I removed his name from the info above.
     
  22. James in Denver

    James in Denver Formula 3

    May 23, 2006
    2,136
    Centennial Colorado
    Full Name:
    James in Denver
    Its common practice for these scammers to get pictures of recent cars for sale, then once they sold, put the same pictures up. Clearly, he got them off of the website of the dealer in AZ that just sold the car.

    James in Denver

     
  23. Spasso

    Spasso F1 World Champ

    Feb 16, 2003
    14,656
    The fabulous PNW
    Full Name:
    Han Solo
    No doubt about it.
     
  24. drjohngober

    drjohngober Formula 3

    Jul 23, 2006
    2,040
    Cville and Gbury Tex
    Full Name:
    Dr.John Gober
    Okay, I bit and sent hom a request. Here is his response.

    Hello,

    Please forgive me for my late reply, but I was on a business trip and I just came home. This 2003 Ferrari 360 Spider is a great car, never implied in any accident, in excellent condition. There are no signs of prior damage on this vehicle. My job put me on the way to US and I bought this car there. Now I have to sell it as I've got back home in UK, Europe. As you know I need a right hand drive vehicle here. The car is located and registered in US. The final price is $80000. All documents, including clear title and a bill of sale on your name will be provided along with the car. The transaction will be made under eBay's protection plan for our safety. Your funds will be 100% insured by Ebay who will hold your payment until you receive and test the car. You will have 15 days from the time you receive the vehicle to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not. If you are interested in buying it please provide me your full name, address and eBay user id so I can initiate the deal through Ebay. I'm a serious man and I prefer to deal only with a serious buyer. I look forward to hearing from you.

    Regards,
     

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