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Need an extra lift - Direct-Lift?

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  1. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    I have a need for another lift and wondered if anyone has purchased one of these in the 4 post variety? I already have another lift I'm using for service and storage. This one claims to include casters(important) plus drip trays for under $1,795.

    It looks like the same piece I paid a lot more for back in 1999.

    Is this thing ok or what?

    Please, information about actual experience with this unit only.

    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. JSL

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    I bought mine from Panther Lifts for $1895. Works like a champ.
     
  3. GCalo

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    Is "champ" the brand name of your lift?
     
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  5. JSL

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    Nope, it is just the 7000 lb four post lift. It is sold by Panther Lifts. Have had it for about a year. No trouble. The casters are of little value in my opinion. Just use them to move the empty lift to position in the garage. Took about 4 hours to assemble.
     
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    It is pretty easy to assemble. Just need a couple of guys to help since the ramps are quite heavy. Not brain surgery, just takes a little time.
     
  8. staatsof

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    I suppose including the link might help DOH!!!!

    http://www.directlift.com/

     
  9. staatsof

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    At $1,895 or less including shipping that's great.

    I did my install back in 1999 so I'll have to dig for it but it was about $450.
    I can't pick any of this stuff up (2 back surgeries) so that's important.


    Casters are a must for positioning and if you ever need to move the lift to another location it simply loads on a flatbed tow truck which I've done.
     
  10. Alxlee

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    Friend of mine just picked this up and it seems to be as well made as others I've seen at a pretty good price. http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/ If you're in the Delaware area I think it was $1 a mile for delivery.
     
  11. staatsof

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    Thanks. That's the exact same lift and what I needed to know.

    Only real drawbacks I can see are the very short headroom at full height and it looks like the pump is mounted on the outboard side of a post which makes for clearance issues.
     
  12. hetek

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    Here's my Direct Lift:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107282

    Regarding the pump placement: Since the lift is double-ended, the post with the pump can be located at either the drivers-side front corner or the passengers side rear corner - it all depends which end of the runways you hook the ramps to. I chose the right-rear corner because it was nearest a wall outlet and out of the way.

    Also, realize that the pump is just that - a pump (with a motor). The only connections are a hydraulic hose and a power cord. I read here somewhere that someone fabricated a different mounting bracket - on a hinge, I believe - to swing it out of the way when not in use.

    Regarding the height: The runway height is 72" - Which also happens to be MY height - so I can bonk my head if I'm not careful stepping under the runways. If it were any higher, though, I would worry more about putting my Mondial through the garage ceiling than bonking my head. I still lower the lift a notch or two from maximum sometimes to make reaching easier.

    I'm very happy with mine. The price was great. It came with a set of 4 heavy duty dollies, a jack tray and two plastic drip pans. I picked it up at Greg Smith Equipment in Delaware myself, assembled it by myself and as a bonus: Delaware has no sales tax.
     
  13. staatsof

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    The width issue has to do with the pump being mounted on the outside of the post. Is that not the case here?

    In any event I have room for 103.5" wide which is enough for their specification but I need to be able to roll the lift out of the garage on it's casters.

    Oh wait... I just looked at their owners manual. The overall width dimension does not include the pump!

    Having been through this before, I had a custom sized lift made that would clear both my height and width issues on a garage in my previous house to allow it to exit the garage on casters.

    I also had my pump left off of the lift and I have it free ranging on casters
    with a quick disconnect hose.

    Ah the best laid plans ...

    The height on the casters was not an issue but the way the casters work with those long pivoting arms that STICK WAY OUT was. I had to cut them down.

    So, assuming I can remove the pump and the bracket alone does not also increase the width beyond the 102" "overall" width how far do those arms protrude when the lift is lowered with them in place?

    Also, I've seen several different pictures and illustrations of this lift and it's not clear if the post feet are included in this 102" figure. On some pictures the foot is oriented so that it would be but the owners manual is unclear.

    http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/photos/TPPRO-PARK7-11.jpg
    http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/photos/TPPRO-PARK7-12T.jpg

    Bob S.
     
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    I had the same garage situation as you do. Move the tracks and door lift to the ceiling. You can always install an alarm or motor stop with an infared beam mounted on the ceiling. Being careful around a lift is the best advice.

    Getting used to the fact that the car still moves around once it's up in the air is more difficult. It's designed that waybecause there isn't any other solution.
    It works.

    Why would there be sales tax if it's shipped?

    Bob S.
     
  15. hetek

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    First, I mentioned the tax thing in case you picked one up yourself, in person, as I did. Just something to consider.

    The pump does mount outboard of the column, regardless of which corner you put it on. I also agree about the long forks on the casters - they were the deciding factor on how close I could get it to the side wall in my garage.

    I agree with JSL, though. I only used the casters to place the lift in its final location after assembly. I haven't used them since, although I am glad they were included no-charge.

    I'm not quite sure why you would like to move the lift out of the garage except if you were to move it to a new home. If so, a partial disassembly might be in order. The QD on the hydraulic hose you mentioned would certainly make the job less messy.

    I'm very happy with mine. The only problem was the noisy "stick-slip" I mentioned in the other thread, which I think was caused more by the brand of hydraulic fluid I used than anything else. One quart of additive and it is fully cured.

    I can measure the foot width dimension tonight.
     
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    I have one at home too.

    All good things to say about it. Plenty of product for the money. I really just use it for storage but I like it overall as well.
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  17. staatsof

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    If you can do the measurement that would be great.

    The pivot forks ended up being longer than needed so I just used a sawsall
    on moving day and cut them down.

    I had to move mine out of the garage to a storage locker which now holds 3 cars. I never tried moving it with a car on it. My garage wasn't that big but based upon moving it with no car I'm not too shure I'd want to do that anyway. Originally the idea was to move outside, put a car on and clean a car from underneath.

    It's easy to transport all assembled and strapped to a flatbed tow truck.
     
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    Bob,

    If you need a place to store the lift, I have an empty bay.....

    -Paul
     
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  20. hetek

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    Here are my measurements:

    The width, "foot to foot", I measured at 102 1/8".

    The bracket for the pump/motor, is welded to the outside of the column and extends out 1" further than the foot on that side.

    I'm coming up with a total width of 103 1/8", WITHOUT MOTOR.

    As-is, the pump/motor on mine extends about 1' from the column (measured to the furthest point which is the dump valve lever), so it looks like you would definitely have to move it. The hinged bracket idea might work or the remote mount you mentioned earlier.

    If you were to "remote mount" the motor, I suppose you could cut off or shorten the existing bracket and save an inch there.

    If you have only 103 1/2" it looks like you'll have a whopping 3/8" clearance without the motor. Cut the bracket off and you'll have 1 3/8" clearance.

    Greg Smith Equipment is in Newark Delaware, only about 1/2 hr or so from the NJ border. They have the lift on display there, along with all their other stuff. It might be worth a day trip to take a look at in person. They were even open Saturday mornings when I picked mine up.

    I hope this helps. Good luck.
     
  21. Jackmb1

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    Congrats,
    Please post pics when you're done with the assembly.
     
  22. staatsof

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    It helps enormously and I thank you a lot!

    This clearance is to get it past the door opening and as you may know once up on the wheels with no car on the lift you can wiggle those columns around a lot so I think cutting off the pump mount would be pointless.

    Once inside I have a whopping 10' x 20' of space. It's strickly for storage/parking.

    Thanks again.

    Bob S.
     

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