Ok, finally got the last piece of the puzzle, I believe. These are the lower part of the Lancia 8.32 intake. Look how nicely they line up with the Suzuki motorcycle ITBs. All we need now is some all-thread to space the bodies a bit, a new fuel rail, some plugs for the old injector spots, and a bit of rubber coupling to tie the ITBs to the intakes. And, of course, the brain (currently planning on a Megasquirt). I won't take the car apart before the 308 in 08 event, but maybe in November we'll piece this thing together. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
does that intake bolt right on the 4V heads? . . wow . . amazing if so . .. . good luck . .. there's always lots of fun lurking in the details cheers
Yep, it came off a 4V 3.0 motor. I've checked the bolt pattern and spacing, looks good. Won't know until I try, of course. They built just under 4000 of the cars, but for some reason the spare parts are very hard to find.
I like it! I'm confused by 2 things though. It looks like the TB have 2 sets of linkage? Are there 2 butterflies in them? The second is the injector angle and position. The injector appears to be spraying right into the side of the TB instead of pointing down the intake runner and I think you will have problems with that. My sugestion is to put them back on ebay and get a set with a single set of linkage/butterfly and an injector with a more favorable angle. The other option is to mount the injectors in the holes int he manifold runners instead of the TB. Those manifolds look like a great find BTW.
okay . .. here he comes . . . I see him HEY RUSS! . . . DID YOU HEAR WHAT THE PIZZAMAN'S CONTEMPLATING oops sorry
Ok geniuses/hot rodders in the bunch. Any reason why this hose wouldn't work in very short chunks to tie the ITB and manifold together? The manufacturer makes the point that it's not for use in a fuel delivery application, but the airflow should almost be metal-to-metal... OD of the manifold is 1.764 inches, OD of the ITB is 1.725 inches. http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=2802
I wouldn't risk it, and would go with fuel rated hose. I would look at marine supply first, they usually have large diameter fuel hose. You could also look for fuel filler hoses. If you're going to space the ITB's even with the lower intakes, why not weld them up and do a little port matching?
very cool to stumble on this conversion if memory serves, dosen't the lancia 8.32 motor have the modern injectors bosses offset towards the center of the motor rather than the opposite side QV? i seem to recall the lancia manifold might be better for performance with a straighter shot to the intake port on the head. whats the lancia runner dimension compared to the qv's? cool that you have the option to run 2 different injector location. consensus is the lower mounted injectors are better for part throttle response and higher injectors (above throttle plate) are better for high RPM use. mk-e the 2008 gxer motors TB's have 2 injectors and 2 butterfly throttle plates per cylinder (suzuki gsx-r SDTV), one shoot directly on one of the duel throttle butterflies rather than down the ports towards the int valve head for part throttle response. although interesting, i wonder if might be too complicated to program and synchronize for the 328 application. please keep us updating on this... cheers hf ps i cant ipost a pic of the duel throttle plate TB's due to a full attachment box... any idea how to delete old attachments or empty the it?
what about dual fuel injection? there was a cool piece for the buick grand national, back in the day. a 7th injector kit by Applied Technologies. basically the 7th injector sat on top of the throttle body and when its brain received boost(driver adjustable) the additional bosch style injector was activated @ WOT. most alcohol/methanol injection kits are very similar, an electronic signal activates an adjustable system. is tthere any reason why something similar couldnt be worked up for 8 additional injectors instead of 1 additional injector? there are vortech supercharger kits that use rubber hose instead of hard tubing. plus turbo hoses that come in different diameters. that should work,no? i'd contact a dealer for superchargers or a turbo supplier, they probably have what you need awesome project, hope to see it complete!!
Looks great. I think the straight flow path will make a big difference. Would suggest porting and matching the manifold, and be very careful with gasket alignment!
