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I wanted to get my 348 and Classic Ferrari's guys opinions..

Discussion in '348/355' started by PassionIsFerrari, Apr 9, 2005.

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  1. PassionIsFerrari

    PassionIsFerrari Formula 3

    Aug 15, 2004
    2,454
    This is the section I post in 90% of the time so I figured I would ask you guys...A lot of people in this thread are painting a very bad picture of me, some are even suggesting my removal....

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52539

    since you all know me the best out of anyone, do you feel this way too. Your opinion matters because I do not wanna get blackballed from this site. I have asked Premier Auto to drop the charges against me and are asking for your help in doing so also...He is not going to listen to me...but he will listen to you all. Any help you could give would be very truly appreciated. This is a felony charge and it is 90% of my life right now....I would be very gratified if some of you thought highly enough to help me out.

    Thanks,

    Aaron
     
  2. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 19, 2001
    22,614
    The Brickyard
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    The Bad Guy
    Aaron I haven't made any comment, but since you are asking.

    First did you give back what is theirs? If you didn't, do it. If you already did, then good.

    Now after that is done have you tried to talk to them on the phone, in a calm manner, asking to end the dispute? Not over the internet.

    Lastly, be a MAN. If you are gonna fight, fight like a MAN. If your are gonna take a beating, take it like a MAN.
     
  3. PassionIsFerrari

    PassionIsFerrari Formula 3

    Aug 15, 2004
    2,454
    They have everything that is theirs...I will try to call them and hope for the best.
     
  4. gil308

    gil308 Formula 3

    Jun 22, 2004
    1,975
    Charleston, SC
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    Gil
    Aaron, the first time I heard about you was on that thread...so I had no preconceived feelings about you. But you made a thread based on lies and for no fathomable (sp?) reason. You were clearly wrong and in my law enforcement opinion committed a crime. Were you hoping Premier wouldn't know about F-Chat?

    Bottom line is you should hire an attorney. If I were Premier, I would not talk to you. You made your bed and now have to ... well, you know. I am really appauled at your behavior...not just for taking the parts, etc. but for creating a thread slamming another person when you were the one at fault (in my opinion). There is no excuse for that.

    You need to beg and plead with the prosecutor to accept a plea agreement. Why would Premier drop the charges? They have nothing to lose by going forward with the case. You have EVERYTHING to lose. You should never have come to F-chat with this (although enjoyable to read, not very smart on your part).

    Get a lawyer who can negotiate on your behalf. He/she can be more diplomatic with the DA and with Premier...clearly you have ZERO diplomacy skills. That new Ferrari you bought may become Attorney fees.

    I wish you luck in this matter...I think you will need it. IT would be best if you and your attorney called the Sheriff's office and turned yourself in. Otherwise, they will pick you up and it may not be the most opportune time for you (having dinner with family, taking a shower, having "relations" with a girlfriend, etc.) DO THE RIGHT THING...until now you have not.
     
  5. gil308

    gil308 Formula 3

    Jun 22, 2004
    1,975
    Charleston, SC
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    Gil
    By the way, do people "know you the best" because you post here or because they have met you and spent time with you?

    Unless people meet in person and over time develop some kind of relationship, do you really know anyone here enough to vouch for them? I'll bet noone expected this kind of behavior from you just based on your F-CHat posts (prior to your infamous thread).

    Again, not taking into account my personal feelings about your situation, do the right thing and get an attorney.
     
  6. PassionIsFerrari

    PassionIsFerrari Formula 3

    Aug 15, 2004
    2,454
    I did not think i was at fault though. And even though I do admit wrongdoing...I still think Premier did wrongdoing also. That was the point of starting that thread, to explain what happened with that car...I never mis-represented facts or lied, I told the story about what happened with that car from my side..And everything I said about that car is true, Premier even admitted most of that and the things they did not admit, they tryed to downplay. The exhaust on that car doesnt sound right....I didnt know it at the time because it was the 2nd Ferrari i had every driven...but when i got my white one,I realized this. And they definitely downplayed the gumminess of the interior...Read the posts and see all the comments on the pictures of that car. I started that thread to bash them and that car so that know one here would go through the same ordeal that I did. I wouldnt wish that on anyone. But let me clarify this...Premier is definitely no angel, and they wont admit any fault in this situation and the little man like me will get stepped on....so it goes.
     
  7. rickjaffe

    rickjaffe Formula Junior

    Mar 6, 2005
    363
    houston
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    richard jaffe
    aaron, I've been an attorney for 25 years and handle a wide variety of complicated criminal cases and business disputes. Let me give you some free advice.

    First, you talk too much. You are facing criminal charges and the statements you make on this site can be used against you (with appropriate, and formal foundation); the post on the other area of a digger, digging itself deeper is most appropriate.

    Second, you need to hire a good local attorney to try to extricate you from this mess, which mess you have largely created.

    Third, whatever else is the case, you're judgment is very poor. So you should not say anything else or do anything, including talking to Premier, without advice of counsel. Your words are going to make it more costly and harder for you to be extricated from this.

    Fourth, you have to accept responsibilty for your actions and understand that your actions will have consequences, and have a cost, both in terms of attorneys fees and perhaps a civil settlement since you certainly libeled the dealer. (but DO NOT make any more public announcements.).

    Fifth, take a deep breath and slow down. You didn't kill anyone, and ultimately what you did was inappropriate self-help, compounded by posting half-truths and making material ommissions on this site. Although I'm not familiar with alabama criminal practice, in general, I believe that this case should not be of great interest to the local prosecutors. My guess is that if you reimbursed the dealer for his out of pockets, including their travel expenses for the sting and for transporting the car, and agreed to a very profuse public apology posted on this site and on ebay, then I think it would be in their best interests to move on, and not prosecute the action.

    But again, don't do it yourself. You have already demonstrated that your judgment is very poor. Get a decent local attorney and he'll probably be able to resolve this whole thing for a less than a 30k service on your car.

    AND DON'T MAKE SOME LAME MEA CULPA OR DEFENSIVE RESPONSE TO THIS POST, WHICH MAY JUST DIG YOURSELF IN DEEPER STILL.

    good luck, rick jaffe
     
  8. Bandit

    Bandit Formula Junior

    Dec 21, 2003
    493
    Central MS
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    Mike B.
    Since you asked for our opinion, I'll give mine.

    This is why you don't buy a car off eBay without a full PPI being done. Since you entered into a binding bid and paid the deposit, the responsibility of completing the transaction fell on you. VIN discrepancies happen, I've had one happen to me. 30 days is a reasonable amount of time to fix something like this, but you previously posted you bought another car 24 days after picking this one up. I know I'm speaking with hindsight, but you should have been a little more patient in working with them to fix it. If the car wasn't in the condition expected, you could have backed out by simply loosing your deposit. Since you took the car home before backing out, I think it would be your responsibility to return the car to the place you got it.

    Things probably could have been worked out differently if you tried to work with them to solve the differences and hadn't kept the top, but the actions taken on your part really have hurt your case and will look very bad to a judge if it ever goes that far. Premier may have puffed the car up, but I haven't seen any fraudlent statements by them that justify what you did. Contest the deposit, sue to get it back, whatever it takes; just don't commit an illegal act by taking justice into your own hands.

    I know you aren't going to like what I think you shoud do next, but given the actions taken so far I think it is the best way to make the situation go away. Get an attorney and have them call Premier calmly and apologize for you. Forefit the deposit. Offer to reimburse expenses they have incurred so far (shipping back, trip down for the sting, etc.). That way Premier is in the same situation as if you had simply walked away to begin with. It will probably be $3,000 or more, but that is going to be much less expensive than going to court. So far this has only played out here on the boards, but think of the result on your life if Premier pushes this and your expensive attorney (who is going to bill you regardless of the outcome) advises you to take a plea deal for extortion or larceny.
     
  9. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jan 26, 2005
    22,599
    Gates Mills, Ohio
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    Jon
    Wow, I read the other thread. I'm not an attorney, either, but I can see that you should probably take this whole contest offline and stop posting. I don't know what you're going to accomplish by hanging out on fchat today, except that sometimes being online is easier than dealing with real life (which is where stuff gets decided.)

    If you took a test drive (2 hours?), you're not going to convince anyone that the exhaust tone or interior condition is a valid reason to nullify the purchase. I'm assuming when you drove the car you sat in the interior, because these cars are easiest to drive that way... If you had bought it sight unseen, this argument might have held some sway. I'm car shopping now, and you do need to look at/drive more than 1 or 2 cars IMO. You didn't, but I can't fault Premier for that.

    I also was kinda confused (to put it mildly) that you didn't know the top wasn't on the car when it was shipped back to Premier. If it was something tiny like the remote control for a radio, or a car cover or something less obvious I could buy that. I guess you've said you admitted to keeping it as leverage to get your deposit back, but if I had been in your situation I would have gone out of my way to make sure Premier got the car back complete and in perfect condition.

    Log off and talk to your attorney.

    J
     
  10. JPF

    JPF Formula Junior

    Sep 11, 2003
    525
    NY
    Full Name:
    Joshua

    This pretty much summs up my feelings on the issue. You came, you saw, you drove, you bought. Buyers remorse does not cut it. That and the whole "Targa top" thing sinks you outright.

    You dug your hole, now you have to either lie in it, or pay someone to help get you out. Either way, you lose.
     

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