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0302 found in Venezuela

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by elmotorizado, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. elmotorizado

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    I see clearly the gas cap difference, could you graffically explain the detail of the wings?
    Thanks

    I believe that for some reason there is no interest to solve the Ferrari Mercedes mistery , everything written about this car has to be rewritten and if you add 0302 to the aquation you are really in deep water.
    branko
     
  2. elmotorizado

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  3. jsalgatti

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  4. Santiago Montenegro

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    WOW! Nicest pics, thanks for posting!
     
  5. Bryanp

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    Note the single, 8-plug distributor where the generator typically is located on the four-cylinder motors. Never seen this single-distributor arrangement on a four-cyl before.
     
  6. elmotorizado

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    Great find Jsalgatti, the interior picture shows how spartan the design was, no door handles, just a cable like MGA and others, it also shows that the transmission was attached to the engine and not a transaxel like some publications have stated.
    branko
     
  7. elmotorizado

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    #282 elmotorizado, Jun 9, 2010
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    Bryan, there are a few more details, what seems to be the generator looks rather small, wonder how many amps, the carbs are attached to rubber hoses before the head, I cant distinguish the double coil they mention it in the link.
    http://www.ferrari.com/English/GT_Sport%20Cars/Classiche/All_Models/Pages/625_TF.aspx
    Wonder how many more differences between wide and narrow angle heads.
    branko
     
  8. tongascrew

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    Thanks for pointing out the rubber hose mountings for the carbs.My recolection here is that this was done on the very early 4 cylinder motors to compensate for the low end vibration.I have looked for just this set up and never seen it before. Maybe some of our experts can fill us in more on this. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  9. jsalgatti

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    During the 50's, 60's and even '70's, cars with side draft Weber carburators, used rubber like mountings, for heat and vibration porpuses, such as Alfa Romeo

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  10. Napolis

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    Very interesting Thread!

    You have to remember that especially with cars shipped to SA Ferrari often played around with chassis/engine numbers and definitely restamped a number of cars/engines over the years.
     
  11. elmotorizado

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    Looks to me that there is not much to add to this thread, a few things look clear now, this es the Ferrari Mercedes car that raced in the venezuelan GP of 1957.
    The identity of this car has been discussed for many years and I believe that we have established very clearly that it is not 0562 or 0534 like some of the experts especulated for many years.
    branko
     
  12. litrico

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    Dear Athanase,
    I need an information.
    Is it true that in the book "Triumph and Tragedy" there is an immage of Lino Fayen driving a Moretti 750S barchetta? If yes, can you send me please that immage to fixit66@hotmail.com


    Thanks very much.

    Antonio
     
  13. elmotorizado

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    #288 elmotorizado, Aug 27, 2010
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    Tongascrew quoted today in the 0758 thread.

    Tongascrew, this is strange but without the intervention of some people like the ex owner of 0304 Antoine Prunet and the actual owner Juan Quintano it wont be easy to advance, Prunet was asked several times in the thread and he never responded, I tried to contact Mr Quintano in Spain, with no luck.
    In my investigation I found documents that place TF engine 0306 in one of the cars that came to Venezuela.
    branko
     
  14. tongascrew

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    Hi, can you post the doccuments on 0306 engine. Also if you get a chance to get measurements and more pictures of the chassis please do. Don't give up yet. It's always possible that more may surface at any time. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  15. elmotorizado

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    I have not given up tongascrew, if you read this thread from the begining you can notice that many people called the finding a "FAKE" until I visited the car and posted some interesting pictures, where is the opinion of those people now?
    Measurements are useless unless you have something to compare to.
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  16. tongascrew

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    Hi, just try posting a few measurements and photos of the rear end on the chassis and see what happens. I thinks you will much more back than you ever expected. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  17. elmotorizado

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    This thread was one year old last week, and after more than 28.000 visits.
    Any opinions on what do we do next?
    Any conclusion on the findings so far?
    branko
     
  18. Napolis

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    If I owned this car I would restore it and drive it.
     
  19. elmotorizado

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  20. Santiago Montenegro

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    Branko, that would be the 1957 Maiquetía hillclimb, right?
     
  21. wbaeumer

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    What was the exact date?

    Ciao!
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  22. tongascrew

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    Hi see post 291.We need all the exact details in order to proceed. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  23. tongascrew

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    I may have missed something along the way but what is the s/n for this car. I seem to have many pages on the Venezuela events but can't come up with the chassis number. Thanks just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  24. elmotorizado

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    Correcto amigo Santiago,
    Revisa el foro

    July 15 1957 it was painted white for the GP.
    branko
     
  25. elmotorizado

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    Wonder who are "WE" and to proceed on what?

    I have given all the information I have from the very first post and the serials have been pictured several times.
    Lets keep this post on the subject please.
    branko
     

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