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1972 365 GTC4 paint code/ Grigio argento

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by johnaz, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. johnaz

    johnaz Karting

    Nov 16, 2009
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    Anyone know a source for touch up paint for 1972 365 GTC4 in Grigio argento? And paint code for that factory color? Just minor amount with small container/ brush for chip touch up needed.
    Thanks,
    John
     
  2. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini F1 World Champ
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    Chassis number of the vehicle in question, please.
    There are more than 30 (thirty!) different Grigio Argentos.
    And in which country do you live? USA? Arizona?

    Marcel Massini
     
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  3. daytonaman

    daytonaman Formula Junior
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    For stone chips the original colour is totally immaterial
    Any factory silver you use will change colour on the brush, time of day, temp, blah blah blah
    The tiny metallic content of the paint will lay down and arrange differently and appear lighter and darker even using factory original paint.
    You cannot match stone chips with original colour.
    I have had countless silver cars and I promise you the size of the chip will blend in to the eye with almost any silver touch up.
    Just go buy some MB or BMW touch up. It will NOT match but such a small spot will will not be noticed from 6 ft.
    Wet a tiny brush with thinners first and apply coat after coat at intervals till you fill up the crater.
    I overfill till you get a little mound then when it is hardened after maybe a week or so you can flatten it back to the level of the original paint with 2000 paper making sure to protect the surrounding original paint with masking tape.
    Then cut and polish.
     
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  4. johnaz

    johnaz Karting

    Nov 16, 2009
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    Marcel,
    US spec car #15317. Now in AZ.
    Thanks for your assistance.
    John
     
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  5. Marcel Massini

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    15317:
    Original exterior color Grigio Argento 2.443.048.
    Interior color: Nero Cogolo.
    U.S. version.
    Instruments in miles.
    Assembly sequence #300.
    New to Chinetti Motors.
    Car had water damage in 1980.

    Marcel Massini
     
  6. johnaz

    johnaz Karting

    Nov 16, 2009
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    Anyone have a source for the Grigio Argento 2.443.048 touch up paint? Tried a couple of online shops, no luck.
    Thanks,
    John
     
  7. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini F1 World Champ
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    Cremonini Classic, Lesignana (Modena), Italy.

    https://www.cremoniniclassic.it/

    Ask for Mr. Roberto Bertaccini, speaks perfectly English. Give him my regards.
    CURRENTLY CLOSED DUE TO VIRUS.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  8. sam231

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    Considering the present state in the world maybe the old-fashioned fix of a bit of silver duct tape will do.;)
     
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  9. abilliet

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    Follow Daytonaman’s instructions!


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  10. johnaz

    johnaz Karting

    Nov 16, 2009
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    Tried a close Grigio Argento color, too much silver to match. Sticks out against the actual color, too obvious.
    Need the real color.
    Any suggestions to find proper color in touch up in U.S.?
     
  11. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini F1 World Champ
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    Again, see post #7.
    As for USA you may want to contact Brian Hoyt at Perfect Reflections in Hayward, CA.

    Marcel Massini
     
  12. daytonaman

    daytonaman Formula Junior
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    Thank you.
    Obviously most people just have little experience at this.
    Again I promise you a supposed exact factory colour match is immaterial.
    The metalic flakes in a tiny drop of paint will not lay down the same as the original paint job.
     
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  13. afwrench

    afwrench Formula Junior

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    As stated, silver is tough.Go to a well stocked auto parts store and look at all the caps on the spray can touch up paint. I have had good luck with that . Spray some in the cap and use a fine brush,toothpick or paint pen. Good luck,Mike
     
  14. TTR

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    I agree Howard.

    Even if OP was to find someone with a formula, chemical/material composition of todays paints are completely different than those used 48 years ago and it is very unlikely many paint suppliers carry or have access to those older chemicals/materials.

    And as you stated, even with correct formula & chemical/material composition on hand, concentration of metal flake particles, in any metallic paint (modern or vintage), including silver, will distribute quite differently if/when dabbed on with a touch-up brush than if sprayed with proper paint gun.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Bertaccini, Mr. Hoyt or anyone with extensive (hands-on/personal) experience with vintage car painting will share our opinions/views on this.

    And to offer additional complexity and confusion to this, even lighting (artificial or natural), its source angle/direction, viewers observation angle/direction, his/her eye sight strength or color deception, etc can all affect the perception of “color match“ being seen accurate or not, especially with metallic paints...
     
  15. daytonaman

    daytonaman Formula Junior
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    All true thank you.
    Some common sense
     

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