1972 Ferrari 365 GTC/4 or a brownie got a new lease on life…

Wonderful

 

Well done on your endeavor, great project and great car. I will be one month late for the 50th anniversary of mine which should be finished soon and back to my Malta. Mine 16075 was first registered on the 1st of January 1973 picked up from SAVAF Geneve Switzerland of the famous Georges Filippinetti of Scuderia Filippinetti who unfortunately died on May 3 of the same year. Soon I hope she will be celebrating the next 50 years on the road

 

you mean for sure 50 years, not days ago?

 

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Production date: October 1971
Delivery date: Elie Ayache authorized dealer, Beirut Lebanon February 1972.
This early model was 51 years old a few months ago. Took it out for a drive today.... I am sure it will outlast me by MANY years.
Congrats on the birthday of your gorgeous car, Christian.


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Looking spectacular, Christian.

 

Beautiful car and restoration process!!

I don't want to open a "can of worms" with this post, but I think the Fram PH28041 (Fram's replacement for the PH2804-1) oil is not recommended because Fram changed the design to eliminate the standpipe that is necessary to keep oil in the filter when mounted upside down (as they are on Ferraris). The filter still works, but it takes longer to build oil pressure every startup because all of the oil drains out of the filter when the engine is shut off without the standpipe. This 2014 thread shows the differences in the Fram PH2804-1 (with standpipe, but no longer available) and PH28041 (without standpipe): https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/fram-oil-filter-changes.463579/

 

I have changed mine to UFI ( not nice colour, but they do the job right )

 

Baldwin B253 is the correct oil filter today.

 

Christian,

Thanks for sharing photos of your car here.

I find it very interesting to compare plating colors of suspension/steering & other undercarriage components with same items in the car I'm currently working on.
All I can say at this point that there appear to be a lot of differences & peculiarities, some even almost shocking, like one of the three lower (rear) control A-arm cast arms having different color plating than the other three, but none appear to have ever been disassembled or off the car, let alone re-plated.

 

Christian,

I scrolled through this thread and perhaps missed them, but did you took any notes or photos of all the components in the fuel delivery system, i.e. hoses, filters, pumps, etc during their service.
It's just that I'm in the middle of servicing all and found all but the main filter to be what I suspect factory installed.

Also, I find it anecdotally interesting, that while all the main supply hoses appear OEM, various sections of them are from three different manufacturing batches with dates ranging from April '71 to January '72.

And while all the unrestored main fuel filter canisters I've encountered in Daytonas have all been sort of dark(er) or "olive"(?) green colored, the one in this is black (although it too could've been replaced when the filter was).

 

Thanks for these ^^ Christian.
Looks like the main filter canister in yours is/was also black, but being the “brownie” is much later production than the one I’m working on, I wonder if all or most C/4’s ended up with same and if not, when did the color change might’ve occurred.

 

FISPA fuel filters on Dino 246 GT :

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/fispa-fuel-filter-canister.338766/

 

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New batch of parts gets mixed in with an earlier batch finished differently?

 

Based on my (limited) historical research and studies of production automobile manufacturing 5+ decades ago, sounds very reasonable and as mentioned before, I could easily fill a book or few with similar examples I’ve seen & documented over the decades from several manufacturers, large and small, and continue to discover more all the time.

And to me at least, all this confirms what someone so aptly said or wrote long ago about the two words one should avoid using when commenting or referencing on production methods or techniques of Ferrari or any other automobile manufacturer back in the day.

 

On my Daytona, all the lower arms were either cad-or-zinc plated; probably clear/silver chromate, but hard to be sure because there were only a few spots that had escaped complete rust-away. But...

...all the upper arms turned out to be nickel plated (which I alas, mistook for yellow chromate, until I was already committed to the wrong refinishing).

 

To me, the varying date codes make sense. Different assembly stations would have their own spools, and work through them at different rates...

Don't suppose you know of a source for that "fabric wrapped" style of hose, but with something like a SAE J30R14 rating?

My wife has tasked me with reducing the amount of gas-off, but it would be nice to preserve the look...

 

on Daytonas, the A arms went from silver to gold. when, i dont know.

 

I don’t have a current source for the wrapped fuel hose and will be all ears if you find any.
I found (& bought) some in a small bulk maybe 10 years ago and have been using it in my cars/restorations, but getting close to running out.

 

Yeah, I looked for a while, and sort of gave up. One can get high-pressure hoses of various sorts (though I never found any in smaller sizes) that have that same look, but they tend to have prominent labeling (so would have to be refinished in some way), and it is hard to tell what exact material they are made of (so one would be taking a risk using them for fuel).

Certainly felt like there was no hope of getting that style of hose in a low-perm product, and an explicit ask from my spouse is to reduce the gas fumes as much as possible...