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1979 Porsche 930 (...and 78's too!)

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  1. idart

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    All 930’s had a “genuine leather interior” as standard equipment at no cost. Additionally, U.S 930’s (’76-79) were equipped with a leather dash as were all 3.3 liter 930’s until the 1987 model year (available as an option for '87-89 930's). For a ’79 911 SC, a genuine leather interior was a $1,450 option.

    From the description in the book “Porsches for the Road”, the metallic gray-blue paint to sample ’79 930 (VIN 1130) was ordered with a full leather interior. From the photos in the book, it appears that all the door parts are leather including the door pocket lids, door lock surround and door pulls. Very cool and seldom seen option for a 930.

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/9301130.jpg
     
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    The book, “Original Porsche 911” by Peter Morgan has a very good section on the 930 and includes some of the production changes from 1975 to 1989. Unfortunately, the book's green ’76 930 and white ’86 930 are both fitted with incorrect turbo badges. It’s easy to see how this can happen as many who have ordered replacement “317 00” and “317 01” turbo badges may have received the wrong badge. Although different in overall sizes, the pin spacing is the same for both badges and they will fit either 3 liter or 3.3 deck lids. The caption in the book is also incorrect as it states that the turbo script has not changed (it did change in 1978) and that the finish is bright for the ’76 (faded later-style 317 00 badge fitted to a '76 930). Still an excellent book and provides some great detail on the 930 and 911.

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/7686badge.jpg

    I’ve ordered this new book on the 911 Turbo and I’m looking forward to the chapters on the 930. Just having accurate production numbers for all ’75-89 930’s will be worth the price of admission.

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/727948-new-porsche-911-turbo-book.html
     
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    Current condition of Motor's May 16, 1979 930 posted on flickr (plate Y JH 122T). Photo was taken on December 13, 2009 and there’s some rust by the driver's headlight. As of Dec 2009, still a survivor and hopefully still equipped with the blue tartan dress front seats.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/38389354@N07/4181277797/sizes/l/in/photostream/
     
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    Charles, that photo illustrates how petrol blue can change shade under different lighting conditions.

    I mentioned before that I took photos of this petrol blue ’79 930. Beautiful color.

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/petrolblue.jpg
     
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    yes it is like a Chameleon. it looks green in the garage so my wife call is of all things the green car.
     
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    Absolutely a beautiful color.. I love the contrasting cork interior as well. Cork is a much richer beige color as opposed to the 80's champagne color interiors, really nice. Idart thanks for the color sheet, has anyone seen (photo) of the color "moonstone," curious..
     
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    ’79 VIN 1155 may be moonstone. The paint code is 132 9-2 and if not moonstone, then it was ordered paint to sample as one of the last 50 ’79 930’s.

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/791552.jpg

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/7911551.jpg

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290768850757

    Motor’s test car appears to be light blue metallic. I thought it was silver from Motor's photos but the 2009 flickr photo shows a light blue vs. silver. Is light blue metallic a rare color for a 930?

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/79motor.jpg
     
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    The 1977 Turbo Carrera was the first 930 equipped with a center console. The console held cassette holders that slide into place at the top. The ’77-79 cassette holders were black with a cbox logo red tab and had a 911 part number on the back. I believe these cassette holders remained unchanged until the 1981 model year when the tab colors changed to white or black. The cbox cassette holders were also used in the ’78-79 911 SC and thousands were made.

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/cbox1.jpg

    An important part to make the cassette holders function correctly is the console support brace. This small rectangular part fastens on the inside left side of the console and prevents the cassette holders from sliding backward.

    When I purchased my 930, it had three cassette holders in place and this is what is depicted in the ’78 and ’79 brochure. More cassette holders can be easily added as they simply slide and lock in place. These cassette holders have been NLA for quite some time and despite the huge production run, are uncommon and often missing from ‘78/79 930’s.

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/cbox2.jpg
     
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    This '79 has the color listed as "cream" but perhaps this is moonstone? Another U.S. 930 shipped overseas. I'm beginning to think that just as many U.S. '78/79's have been shipped overseas as '76/77's.

    http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/find/4100_results.asp?bsubmit=true&lmodelflag=14948&lmanufacturer=10106&whatbutton.x=0&page=0&lCarID=1857206

    The cbox cassette holders are loose at the bottom of the console. So easy to fix as they just slide into place at the top of the console.

    http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/find/carpopup.asp?source=/upload/cars/1337/1857206/bige.jpg&list=abcdefghijklm&base=/upload/cars/1337/1857206&dealerpage=no
     
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    great thread! ireonic that two of the best 930 turbo threads i have ever read are on ferrarichat!
     
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    Pete, for sure, best threads on most cars here, as the who's who of collecting, restoring, brokering, historians, etc. all make this place their 'home'. Also cool that some questioned the significance of the first generation 3.3 cars, and the significance is undeniably supported here. In '79, these cars were just screaming badass street machines for the cool crowd. :D
     
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    Interesting, is this the 2nd production 78 930 or the 2nd ROW production 930? I think the 7 in the vin denotes it as ROW. An 8 would mean US production.
    Delivery date of 6/77.. what's the build date? Just curious.

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    i agree mike.
     
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    hmm, My records don't show that color "available" for '76, '77...Now I'm thinking this cars is a sample-to-paint or (Ice) polar blue...forget it.
     
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    onboost,

    They did not post the build date (or chassis number plate) on their website. The ’78 manuals were printed in 11/77 so this 930 would have been produced before that printing. When was your manual printed and what is your 930 build date?
     
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    Ed,

    In one of your bard find '79 930 YouTube videos, you find the plastic red dot for the brake pedal pad. For the ‘78/79 930’s, most of these are long gone so it’s nice that you still have yours. I don’t think a replacement was ever available from Porsche but I don’t think these would be too hard to reproduce.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtxoepXqEUw[/ame]

    Here’s a red dot still on the brake pedal pad on another low-mileage ’79 930:

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/rdot3.jpg

    For ‘78/79 930’s, another painted red dot appeared by the oil fill cap in the engine bay. To my surprise, my 930 still has some remnants remaining (enlarged photo of the oil cap at link below). The top photo is of a green ’79 930 (sold at Voiture ltd, 9,500 miles) also with a painted red dot.

    http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/carrlane/rdot2.jpg

    Another mysterious blue dot decal appeared left of the intercooler data plate. Ed, your intercooler still has one attached:

    http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads17/0151278218062.jpg
     
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    Yes idart, I agree and have also observed that the early U.S. 930's (yes, '78/79's as well as '76/77's) have been migrating overseas for some time now. Simply, I think it's a know fact that many of these cars were better preserved than their foreign brothers. That, along with the U.S. Dollar's weakness, has made them desirable for off-shore buyers.

    As the price creeps upward on these cars, buyers need to become very educated in what they are buying. A 930 might be quite nice looking in many respects but if it's commanding north of big money it better well have the original speedometer, and, some previous owner should have thought it out before letting a couple of 500 pound gorillas play in the front seats. Ouch!

    Electronic tracking on the early 10 digit VIN cars is pretty non-existant. This can make it hard to sometimes understand if what you are buying is as represented. Speedometers can sometimes be a one of the tip-offs to making you dig deeper and ask more questions. Seeing something other than a 150 MPH Speedo in a U.S. '78 or early '79 930 should make you want to understand why. The later '79 U.S. 930s all had 85 MPH Speedos. I've seen 10's of these represented and can count on one hand (with a few fingers left over) those with the original Speedo. While I can well understand why someone with a car that can double that figure might swap one out, I would sure want a clear documentation of the original miles. One of the 1st '79's I looked at was a beautiful color exterior/interior U.S. car with a VIN of 1000+. It had 32,000 miles and a 160 MPH Speedo. Dealer swore it was 100% original (except for the re-spray). It looked and felt at least 70.000 miles more than advertised! Talking about resprays, why do some of these 30K examples need re-sprays? But, that's just another question to ponder.
     

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