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  1. wthensler

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    #51 wthensler, May 14, 2023
    Light silver and black?
     
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    #52 Prototype_, May 14, 2023
    As a stripe? That sounds good too ... :cool:
    I def want to keep the car red.
     
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    #53 wthensler, May 14, 2023
    Yes, that was my thought. I’d absolutely keep the red if it were mine. Red does decals very well, and there’s enough going on elsewhere that the striping could be a bit softened.
     
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    #54 PETER@TEAM AI, May 15, 2023
    I do not use an additive. I just flush mine well with water and occasionally something stronger. Lots online relative to options to keep the tubes clean with household items. Also I would recommend the fan/temp control. Basically a can control switch.
     
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    #55 PETER@TEAM AI, May 15, 2023
    This is the bumper we have on the 360 and 430C's. Much better for cooling and I agree they look better. It looks like this one has been used so it should fit better. Saxon makes some cool stuff but the parts needs so loving to get a great fit and finish.
     
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    #60 wthensler, May 15, 2023
    Silver is too dark, I actually do like the blue and white. The Italian flag is a can’t miss as well.

    You’re probably driving yourself nuts by now! Car will look awesome with any stripe scheme you select!
     
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    #61 Ferrari 360 CS, May 17, 2023
    For me the Italian flag stripe looks best.
     
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    #62 Prototype_, May 17, 2023
    Thanks for all the feedback guys ...

    @PETER@TEAM AI That's your 430 with the Saxon GTN front end right? Looks so good !

    Body prep is happening!

    This gives me about a week to decide on the paint ... I want to do the stripe in paint, not vinyl, and have it clear coated like the rest of the car, with the main decals etc other than the number, driver name etc under the clear. So trying to nail it.


    WRT to the stripe, I really do the love the blue and white, it looks the best to my eye, but conceptually the tricolore works better imo because the car has European heritage, ie the Kessel history ... so decided to play around a bit more with the green and red stripe - the last set of design was just the first draft ... this is the second pass ...


    BODY PREP

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    TRICOLORE STRIPE DESIGN PASS 2

    I made the red and green thinner with a wider white on the edges and changed the colors to match the Challenge Stradale green and red.

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    RIMS

    I've got two sets of rims, and will be doing them in different colors.
    Here's some mock ups ...

    What are your guys thoughts on these ?


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    In the digital wild at Sebring... :p

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    #63 Ferrari 360 CS, May 18, 2023
    I'd suggest the second set of rims in Gold. The modified stripe also looks great, must say this project is really progressing quickly!
     
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    #64 PETER@TEAM AI, May 18, 2023
    That is my Challenge car and we like the bumper design for the cooling! And it does look good. Below is the Saxon front end components we finished and installed on a 430 Project we are doing for a client. This is how we know the amount of work is required to get the raw components finished properly, fitted, installed and then aligned. That's the reason I liked the one you showed a pic of, a lot of work has been done if it was already on a car.

    On the stripping I like all kinds of livery. The 360 CS is my street car, blue car with thin strips.
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    #65 wthensler, May 18, 2023
    I have three sets of rims - silver, gold and black - and they all look great on my white 458 Ch.

    Your car is too pretty to track, mine couldn't approach your level of craftsmanship in a million years...
     
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    #66 Mel Spillman, May 18, 2023
    Love the front bumper and the hood! Awesome!!!
     
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    #67 Prototype_, May 19, 2023
    Whoa, some eye candy there :) Nice shop!

    I see what you mean re fitment - some tricky lines where the top of the bumper meets the hood ?
    Is that a functional GT3 hood - ie regarding cooling of radiators etc ?
    Very very nice.

    Nice spec on your CS! I think the future selves of those of us who do not own Challenge Stradale's will be kicking ourselves in years to come ... :p
     
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    #68 PETER@TEAM AI, May 19, 2023
    Yes hood is fully functional. And more complexity as we have installed the old Novitec twin super charger system which was offered for a few years so there is also the intercoolers and a complete replumbing of the entire car. List of upgrades goes on and on...:)
     
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    #69 Prototype_, May 27, 2023
    How much HP and Torque do you gain with this?

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    • Check coat ^^^ (basically a colored primer - car will be in this state for the next couple of weeks while I work on deep cleaning the wheel arches, suspension, steering, engine bay, interior under dash etc.

    • It will then go for a full mechanical check front to back to make sure everything is solid.
    • The F1 system for example sometimes doesn't go into gear.

    • Once that's done, back into the spray booth and we do the final coats and clear, and then fit the interior.

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    #71 Prototype_, May 27, 2023
    Fender Liners

    Went down a rabbit hole this week on this...

    • I initially thought they were plastic, but when I looked more carefully realized they're this strange composite.
    • Its a fiber layer sandwiched between what looks like a kind of injection molded plastic, but doesn't machine like plastic machines - ie files and sands and drills etc different to plastic - I really have no idea what this stuff is - and its very light.

    So based in this I figured it was worth looking into a little deeper. These parts seem to be pretty costly to replace with NOS parts ... so thought Id try my hand at repairing them ...




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    • The parts that have taken the beating are the smaller wheel arch sections.
    • Sand blasted to less than a mm and cracked and broken all over.


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    Here you can see the makeup of the layers on these parts ...
    Different to the road car I'm assuming ?
     
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    • Shot some primer on the two front pieces, and it revealed the cracks etc. This gave me an idea if what I was dealing with.
    • I then realized that putting grey primer on them wasn't a good idea, as when they start getting blasted again, the grey layer will show up and it will look really bad.


    • A couple of mounting tabs were broken off ... I fixed a couple of these.
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    3D Printed strengthening tab sections to match and covered with a light stone chip.
     
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    #73 Prototype_, May 27, 2023
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    Filled in holes and breaks and edges etc with epoxy resin.

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    • The rears are particularly bad. The left side I think is beyond repair but the right side, shown here I was able to fix.
    • I layered epoxy resin (the dark section above right) to build up a bit of thickness, and a little more stiffness.
    • These had been blasted really thin.
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    • 3D scanned the part once it was fixed so that I have it digitized, and can work with it in CAD.
    • I can mirror this model and potentially carbon print a new one etc.
    • The grey color sprayed on the part is an aero test flaw detector spray, which wipes off. (My consumer grade 3d scanner cant scan black objects.)
     
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    Heres a side by side of the rear liners.

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    I guess Ill rivet the aluminum meshes in, but I had some fasteners which I used here to fit the meshes.

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    They feel nice and robust to me now. I think it worked. Way too much work though... but I wanted to challenge myself to see if I could do it, and learn something new.

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