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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by ferraripete, Nov 18, 2005.

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  1. emunoz167

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  2. elmotorizado

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    #77 elmotorizado, Mar 14, 2009
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    If you just write Ferraris en Venezuela in google u will be sent to a recentlly opened forum, it is a spanich forum, but if u post in english I will translate under, so everybody understends.
    I asume one of the questions was the car with number 3 in this picture. The car was driven by Bobby Dennett in this race.

    This car was modified by the late Max Ciarlet (personal friend) he sold the car to Roberto Odriozola and raced by Odriozola, Dennet and the late Gustavo Sandoval on different ocassions, I am particularlly traying to find the exact model of the car.
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  3. tritone

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    FABULOUS PICTURE!
    2 Ferraris, 2 Porsche 904, a 1953 Ford, and a 1960 Plymout Valiant!!!

    Wonderful mix......

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  4. epdowd

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    Personally, I am interested in the GTE (#18) that is in that photo. Do you have any information on that? Fun photo, by the way...
     
  5. El Wayne

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    My guess is 250 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta.
     
  6. Aardy

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    #81 Aardy, Mar 15, 2009
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    I wonder if it could not be the 250 MM PF berlinetta renumbered s/n 0239EU...
     
  7. elmotorizado

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    #82 elmotorizado, Mar 17, 2009
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    Aardy, I read the story of 0239EU, but could not find records of the car, the particular car that Ferraripete is talkin about, is the same that I am talking about, I spoke to Bobby Brinzey and he purchased it from Odriozola, this car was gray when Max Ciarlet installed the vette engine, it was white in Odriozola`s hands, I never saw it blue painted but it most have been after 67 or 68.
    Max Ciarlet told me that this car raced in la carrera panamericana, it makes me wonder.
     
  8. elmotorizado

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    #83 elmotorizado, May 19, 2009
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    Aardy I just found another picture of the mentiones car in a race in 1958, just wonder if the serial number can be traced.
    TY
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  9. elmotorizado

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  10. Ed Niles

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  11. Manel Baró

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    Sr Muñoz: You have got a PM
     
  12. elmotorizado

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    #87 elmotorizado, Jul 18, 2009
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    Manel Maro and Ed Niles you can see more pictures of the mentioned car and other Ferraris and racing cars in venezuela in this link.
    http://server4.foros.net/index2.php?mforum=muchasrpms
    Manel, Muñoz is a regular in that forum, you are welcome to visit and you can leave a message without registering in "BIENVENIDA Y BUZON DE SUGERENCIAS AND BUSQUEDA DE GENTE Y CARROS".
    Here is another picture of the 250MM in a race in Los Proceres 1966
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  13. ferraripete

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    thank you for your help on this...wow! so it was properly a 250 mm. where is the car currently? i will try to look for the pictures of it in blue and post.

    peter c. brinzey
     
  14. tongascrew

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    Hi, can anyone come up with a s/n for this car? thanks tongascrew
     
  16. elmotorizado

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    #91 elmotorizado, Aug 12, 2009
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    Here is another picture from the misterious 250MM in another race in Venezuela, hope someone comes up with the serial number.
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  17. ferraripete

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    #92 ferraripete, Sep 29, 2009
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    thank you branko for helping bring back memories for both my father and my uncle...and me. i credit my uncle, my father, coco chinetti and jean louis for fostering my love for cars and properly ferraris.

    this is the car, you found it!!! i need to now find the pictures of my father and uncle driving and wrenching on it. i do wonder where this car is currently and if the owner is aware of its interesting historty? my dad and my uncle talk about driving the wheels of this car all over carracas!!!

    thank you for solving this mystery!!!! only on ferrarichat!!!!

    peter c. brinzey
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  18. ferraripete

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    #93 ferraripete, Sep 29, 2009
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    here is a picture of the tr that i was also searching for...branko, amazing that you were able to provide this information all these years later! i really appreciate it, you have made my day.

    peter c. brinzey
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  19. Wolf

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    #94 Wolf, Sep 29, 2009
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    0758TR.


    Regards

    Wolfi
     
  20. elmotorizado

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    #95 elmotorizado, Sep 29, 2009
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    Pete I am glad I made your day, I have the secuence of all the owners of this car and doesnt coincide with what you have, there are many pictures of this car in my webpage, from 1958 until 1980 that it was taken to Italy.
    make a guess about this one
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  21. ferraripete

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    i have no idea. was this a car bobby was involved with? was this in VZ?
     
  22. elmotorizado

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    #97 elmotorizado, Sep 29, 2009
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    Beleive it or not that is the way TR 0758 ended its days in Venezuela, after that it was sent to Italy with some of the remaining TR parts and restored, then a few years later
    was restored again to the same color it had when imported to the country for Mauricio Marcotulli, white but with different middle stripe.
    Photo taken I beleive in late 58.
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  23. AscoutDoug

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    Pete,
    I recall an Arpad Brinzey as living in Charlotte, NC ~1970 and driving a black Sunbeam Tiger and then a silver BMW 2002, IIRC. I had a '61 E-Type and then a '69 Triumph GT6. Arpad and myself competed a little against each other, but mostly as co-participants in local autocross/slalom events.
     
  24. ferraripete

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    #99 ferraripete, Aug 26, 2010
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    the very same!

    sunbeam tiger had a 302 holman and moody built engine and was really, really fast!!

    the 2002 was actually fjord blue and was a tii...it was later found, repurchased, restored, and given to me for my college graduation present in 1990.

    damn small world!!!
     
  25. garybobileff

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    If anyone would like to see pictures of #0239EU during restoration, and then shown on the lawn at Pebble Beach Concours, please go to my website and go to Restoration section, then to Ferrari's.
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