288GTO, F40, F50, ENZO how long does it take

Tim, I run this wannabe-Enzo-register:

http://www.enzoregister.barchetta.cc

Would you like to contribute with your Enzo s/n , colours, etc? You can PM me if you prefer. Thanks in advance.

Rodolfo

 

I thought it was a 2.8 engine? - Regardless - still an amazing car!!

I remeber the first time I opened the drivers door on a F40 - I nearly pulled the door off it's hinges where it was so light!!

Paul

 

thanks Garretto but I dont want to register it and dont want anyone to know it. just better that way.

 

I was at lunch with Dario Benuzzi last month in Modena. The subject of F40 vs 360CS lap times at Fiorano came up. He said the CS is faster, and his personal opinion is that it is mostly the technically refined chassis/suspension package, and the carbon brakes.

 

That's what I thought, but I guess Jeremy felt like rounding. Having never opened an F40 door, I can't compare, but I do believe you!

 

I wouldn't expect a Ferrari employee to say anything else, quite frankly.

 

Well, I guess a Supercar is not all about speed. Handling, look, balance, and most of all Pride play a lot of parts in such cars. Speed is only some sort of number people can easily relate to. I'll choose 288GTO over anything it's put against knowing full well that its numbers may not be as comparable, but the CAR does look and feel every ounce a Supercar.

 

You obviously haven't heard the man speak. He's been around so long he doesn't need to pull any punches. Look, the F40 was conceived almost 18 years ago. The 0-60 times are similair to the CS, plus your dealing with turbo-lag. You don't think the phenominal refinement of the chassis' since then and the carbon brakes don't make the CS a faster track car than the F40? Of course it does. The difference in lap times does get smaller as the skill level of the driver increases. The CS is an easier car to drive at the limit than the F40.

 

Having spent some decent time behind the wheel of an F40 and the 360, I really don't think that you can compare the two. I would take an F40 any day over a 360 CS as far as actual driving is concerned. The F40 is so raw and untamed. It's a total beast. I suppose it's somewhat analagous to trying to ride a tiger. Even just tooling through downtown in the F40 feels like so much more than driving a regular car. It's a feeling that almost no other car can match. When I first got behind the wheel of an F40, what kept coming most to mind was my old Formula Ford race car.

As far as arguments for the 360CS or regular 360, I suppose that when it comes to going to out to dinner with the wife and parking it somewhere, or maneuvering around town, etc. then that may be something that you can't argue as well for with the F40.

 

Tim, do you remember how your F40 sounded when it was stock ? Is it much louder ? and is there a noticeable increase in power ?
The F40 with tubis doesnt sound as an F40 should sound, thats why im asking .

 

Well, the tiger analogy made me realize something; I need a 360 AND an F40. They are two very different animals. When it comes down to comparing lap times, the neighborhood kid's v-tec powered civic would probably outlap a 50's grand prix car at the Nurburgring. The beauty of it all is there are so many options and so little time (I mean, so little money).

 

That's exactly how I think that it should be. I think that the Ferrari expoerience is best enjoyed with a production car and a special edition car. There are many people who have several of the special cars and several production cars but I don't know how you would drive them enough to really enjoy them. The best scenario, in my mind is to have two Ferraris: one of the special models and one of the production models. Use the production model during the week and the special one on weekends and special days (track days count).

 

The F40's engine is 2936cc, or 2.9 litre rounded to the nearest tenth.

It was factory rated at 478hp @7000rpm, many say it was 'underrated' at that number.

It also makes an ungodly 425lb-ft of torque at 4500rpm...

With a weight dripping wet with driver of just at 2900lbs, it's one hell of a car.

I would be astonished if a CS would beat it around practically any track on the same day.

Especially if both cars were given Pirelli or Hoosier slicks.

AFAIK, at least in a straight line, a 288GTO will kill a 360. Let alone a 355.

Best!
Ben.