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308 GT/4 asking $105,000 - gold plated?

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  1. pacoll

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  3. Aircon

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    bargain....you better snap it up.

    did you see the other one on drive.com.au ? i posted the link somewhere yesterday.
     
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  5. PAP 348

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    Hmmmm..........righteo. ;);)

    FERRARI 308 GTB DRYSUMP LIGHTWEIGHT $220,000

    History: Drysump lightweight 1of 154 made, Red/Sabbia only an amazing 4700 miles, 1 owner.

    Stored many years and exhibited at the bridgenorth motor museum.

    They have removed the engine/gearbox, stripped down, checked components as a precaution, they have converted the engine valvesfor unleaded petrol. The chassis suspension and engine bay are beautifully prepared making this probably the finest low mileage glassfibre, lowest mile in the world. Would suite collector



    I wouldnt buy it now, because of that!!! :D:D

    Would have been better off leaving the engine/gearbox untouched. Just remove heads and replace valves, thats all they should have done with that. :):)
     
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  8. Aircon

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  9. wrxmike

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    Sounds ok, has all the sensible stuff done, would be a good "driver" and would likely provide years of trouble free motoring.
     
  10. wrxmike

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    PAP,

    Would have needed new seals / gaskets after sitting for 30 years, and once the heads were off ( and engine out) it's not that much more work. When it's sold, the price will set a new benchmark for RHD, dry sump fibreglass GTB's*.

    While 220k seems steep at first glance ,consider that a ratty 246 Dino will sell for around 200K , in which case a pristine, rare GTB seems a bargain at that price, so perhaps it's not as OTT as it seems.

    Also, i doubt you could buy a dry sump GTB and restore it to the same condition as this car for anywhere near 220k all up, and you would still end up with a resto, rather than an original car.

    For the same money you can buy a 360, a 355 or even a 550, but this car will appeal to a buyer that wants something unique. And which car is likely to retain its value better ?

    As someone else says: " *rarer than an F40" LOL.

    M
     
  11. PAP 348

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    You mis-understood me mate. :):)

    It probably is a good price and I am not questioning the rareity of the car. I would also much rather have this over a 355,360 ect....:):)

    But.........this car has only 4700 miles?? You already know the next owner of this car WOULD not drive it, as it is a collectors item, so why pull the engine apart, inpect still like new components/bearings/rings, then put it back together with new seals. Cam and crank seals can be replaced without engine dis-assembley anyways. All you have to worry about now is, if some knuckle head assembled the engine correctly. It will be more prone to leaks now, than it was before. It may even fly apart, who knows? You would like to think they did a good job. Nothing like a tight/factory sealed engine, if you know what I mean? :D:D
     
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  13. wrxmike

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    Pap, I understand where you are coming from, but I suspect your view of "stripped down" is a bit more throrough than a car dealer/ broker would do, hence I don't think they went deep enough in to it to truly F*ck it.

    IMHO they would have done little more than take the bottom cover off the gearbow and looked at it - then claim "inspected" , same for the engine - when they took the heads off , they casually looked at the bore, hence "inspected".

    No way would they have stripped the drvietrain down to each component part, measured the tolerances, then crack tested all critical bits and only if ok, assembled it. If they claimed that, I would want to see evidence.

    I agree with you about the next owner - I can't imagine someone buying it to actually drive!
    While its nice to have a good car, its even nicer to have a car that you can drive.

    M
     
  14. PAP 348

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    If you read it again mate, thats what they said they did. :):)

    *"They have removed the engine/gearbox, stripped down, checked components as a precaution"*. :):)

    If they did it or not, proof would be nice of course. :):)

    Either way, they were better off leaving it alone, but thats just my opinion. :):)

    Its a nice car.......
     
  15. b27

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    I gotta dry sump Heavy Weight" lol. If only it were aussie spec I would be sitting on a gold mine after restoration. lol :):)
     
  16. Aircon

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    no...it would still be worth nothing
     
  17. b27

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    Doesn't matter, I'm not selling it. Was joking oon two comments recently made. 1, Aussie Spec, and 2. Fibreglass.
     
  18. Aircon

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    duh...ya don't say? :rolleyes:
     
  19. b27

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    Do you think you could be positive just one night????
     
  20. wrxmike

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    I must have missed it , where does it say Aussie spec ?
    AFAIK that GTB is a recent UK import.

    M
     
  21. b27

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    Mike this goes back to a recent thread. ( I was just winding PP up as one does. He thrives on it :))

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186499

    There was a lot of discussion regarding aussie delivered cars.
     
  22. maurice70

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    I could be wrong but I dont really think there is a big difference on the resale with imports to local cars when it comes to GT4/B/S
     
  23. Aircon

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    i think you are...but that's just my opinion.
     
  24. Aircon

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    probably not.
     
  25. b27

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    Your apprentice is doing very well. I had to Google one of his words. Very impressive.
     
  26. wrxmike

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    Oops, I missed the subtlety of that....

    M
     
  27. Aircon

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    he's not my apprentice...he's his own man.
     
  28. b27

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    Thats ok M, I've learnt in my short time here that things can change quickly. VERY quickly. :)
     

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