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Discussion in '348/355' started by tvproducer, May 20, 2004.

  1. tvproducer

    tvproducer Rookie

    Apr 28, 2004
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    anybody familiar with interior leather shrinkage problems in 355? mine has a little panel over the airbag that has shrunk and apparently that requires removal of the whole airbag and reprogramming. over $1000 to replace a tiny piece of leather seems extreme. i've heard this is common so why doesn't ferrari do a recall? i understand they don't warantee cosmetics but they must be using inferior parts if they are frequently shrinking.
     
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  3. Doody

    Doody F1 Veteran

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    try conditioning the bejeezus out of the leather before you fork over a grand+. but you're probably hosed.

    the 550s do the same thing. as well as the airbag on the passenger side. it fluxes though with humidity.

    doody.
     
  4. wfo900

    wfo900 Formula Junior

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    You can still save it. Leatherique (a list sponsor) sells Rejuvanator Oil. Slather that on, rub it in, get it hot so it gets absorbed and the leather will return to the regular shape. You may have to repeat. I thought my spider interior was toast but that stuff had it looking like new.
     
  5. 911Fan

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    Apr 15, 2004
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    " i've heard this is common so why doesn't ferrari do a recall? i understand they don't warantee cosmetics but they must be using inferior parts if they are frequently shrinking."

    It's not really Ferrari's fault. You can thank the previous owners for not taking proper care of your car.
     
  6. fasthound

    fasthound Formula Junior

    Nov 23, 2003
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    Realistically, there really is NO excuse for the leather shrinkage. It shouldn't happen. I had a 1991 BMW 750iL with 45K miles on it, and it sat outside in the sun and I never cared for the leather and it always looked like the day I bought it. Same with my mom's 1990 Lexus LS 400 (which I now own), and certainly the same for 911's I've owned. Left them outside and NOTHING shrank. And I didn't have to spend hours with rejuvenating oil (which I am slathering all over the F355 trying to keep the shrinkage to a minimum). Just because they are high performance cars is no excuse for Ferrari using obviously inferior interior bits and pieces. We shouldn't make excuses for them....it shouldn't happen in a car that originally sold for $140K+. Seems to me that Aston Martins don't have the same problem....and they have more leather that a Ferrari. Is it that Italian cows have thinner leather than British cows? And that silly "paint" that is bubbling up is also inexcusable in this level of automobile. So, while the performance may in some way "make up for" the lack of quality in the interior, it shouldn't be excused. The factory should be ashamed to release products like this....but they are laughing all the way to the bank...and we are still buying their cars (and will continue to do so, I'm sure).

    That being said, when DRIVING the car, I don't notice the leather or "paint" shrinkage, I just notice the big smile on my face.
     
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  8. bobleb

    bobleb Formula 3

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    I recall George Costanza having problems with "shrinkage" (of a different sort) in a Seinfeld episode. :)
     
  9. Merdav

    Merdav Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2004
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    Kevin, very well put, my 355 is in nearly perfect condition, EXCEPT for the dash shrinkage which looks like crap.
     
  10. PBRacer

    PBRacer Karting

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    I agree 100%. For these prices, this leather shrinkage is ridiculous. My car is also great except for the dash shrinkage around the vents

    stan
     
  11. Merdav

    Merdav Formula Junior

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    Let's all meet in front of FNA Monday at noon and blow our air horns until they cough up some new dash panels for everyone!!!!
     
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  13. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
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    So you DO take the time once a month to feed and treat the leather so YOUR car never has this problem?
     
  14. Merdav

    Merdav Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2004
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    My car has not been in my care since new. In the time I've had it? Yes I clean and put the preserver on it as often as I wax it. But I've never done it to any of the 30 or so cars I've owned in the past with no problems. Let's face it, it's either poorly installed or poorly cut leather for it to be considered a "common problem".
     
  15. CChung

    CChung Karting

    Dec 10, 2003
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    Is leather shrinkage a problem with the 360s also or did Ferrari do something to fix the problem?
     
  16. ghost

    ghost F1 Veteran
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    Now that I think about it, haven't heard about leather shrinkage in 360's. Hmmm...
     
  17. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

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    i saw the thread title and thought, "I WAS IN THE POOL! I WAS IN THE POOL!"
     
  18. f355spider

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  19. lukek

    lukek Formula 3

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    it was not ALL that it could be.....

     
  20. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    The problem is that Ferrari choses the wrong material for certain applications...leather on the dash is inappropriate. I don't know of many cars with leather dashes...most have molded plastic (BMW comes to mind) or vinyl, which last far longer.
     
  21. 911Fan

    911Fan Formula 3

    Apr 15, 2004
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    "The problem is that Ferrari choses the wrong material for certain applications...leather on the dash is inappropriate. I don't know of many cars with leather dashes...most have molded plastic (BMW comes to mind) or vinyl, which last far longer."

    My last 911 had a leather dash. I owned it for 4 years and I didn't have any problems with the leather (or anything else, for that matter).

    Of course, I conditioned it every few months -- just like I do on my 360. So far so good.
     
  22. Ade

    Ade Formula 3

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  23. TigerAce

    TigerAce Formula 3

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    The covering around A/C control by shift gate is actually expanding & started to bubble. I'm thinking to blow cold air using a hair dryer, and use leatherique. I guess a garage in TX is too hot for 355!
     
  24. Ade

    Ade Formula 3

    Jan 31, 2004
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    ????? I had mine re-covered at a UK independent dealer for about £100 or so if I recall correctly. They do need to remove and reprogram the airbag, however it only took an hour to do it - I was watching my mechanic sort it out. Sounds like you need to shop around more within the US. Looks MUCH better once its done..
    Ade
     

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