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360 F1 not engaging

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Ferrari Chicago, May 29, 2020.

  1. Ferrari Chicago

    May 19, 2020
    14
    Chicago, Illinois
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    Steven
    Hi everyone, I am new to this forum. I purchased a 2003 360 spider about a year ago. It has been running great until last weekend. I was driving normally coming to a stop, it was downshifting by itself and appeared to be downshifting slower than unusual. It went down into third and then directly into neutral. After that, it would not shift out of neutral. No errors or anything. I had the car towed home and connected my launch scanner to it. I manually selected a gear and when I selected 3rd the transmission came back to life. I next ran the gear actuator calibration procedure and it stopped midway and I received two error codes P1741 (Engagement Potentiometer absent) and P1742 (Selection Potentiometer Absent). Is it possible that both of these all of a sudden are not working properly, or is it something else? Also, I looked online and both of these are very expensive (over $1K each), has anyone replaced these with the Peugeot Throttle Position Sensor 9642473280 which costs about $30?

    I drove the car yesterday and it rode fine, but it did beep at me once and did not shift, but did shift after I pulled the lever again. Some more information, the clutch is almost new at 78%, no slippage at all. The PIS is set at 4.83.

    Any help would be appreciated!!!
     
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  3. flash32

    flash32 Formula 3

    Aug 22, 2008
    2,203
    Central NJ
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    Dominick
    I would consider doing more analysis just to rule out some items ..

    Since you have a x431 map the data stream for pressures as you drive ..also look at some of the other data items on the data list

    Maybe display some of that data here




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  4. Ferrari Chicago

    May 19, 2020
    14
    Chicago, Illinois
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    Steven
    Thanks for the replay, I will try this and report back
     
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  5. Ferrari Chicago

    May 19, 2020
    14
    Chicago, Illinois
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    Steven
    Thanks for all the replies. Just to clarify, when it failed to change gears nothing worked. Somehow it appears that the car thought it was in 3rd gear, when it put itself into neutral. When it fixed itself, it was working fine through all of the gears. I took it out for a drive again yesterday and it worked fine. I plotted the f1 system pressure and it remained between 40 and 50 psi. I will try to post the graph. I did take the undertray off and one of the sensors appears to have some oil on it. Could this be the problem? I would not tell where the oil was coming from, but it appeared to be gear oil.
     
  6. MarkRoth

    MarkRoth Rookie

    Oct 4, 2005
    23
    Barrington, IL
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    Mark Roth
    I had a problem with my 355 f1 (with a 360 pump). It turned out to be that the battery was getting weak, was causing a fault in the codes, and the car would only intermittently shift into gears. The battery was changed and the codes reset. Now works fine.
     
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  8. Ferrari Chicago

    May 19, 2020
    14
    Chicago, Illinois
    Full Name:
    Steven
    Thanks for the information on your 355. The battery on the car is new (6 months old AGM) shows 13.2 v on the charger and over 14V when the car is running, so I do not believe that it is the battery.
     

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