360CS v. GT3 v. Ford GT

If Ford continues with the GT and improves it each model year, I'm not sure Ferrari will be able to compete in the under $200k market.

 

Frank
The last time Ford built one of these No One could compete with them anywhere...

 

Do you think Ford is selling these things at a loss or at cost? Don't need to make a profit
on your halo car, if it brings the masses into the showroom.

Unfortunatly, most of the 360 price has to be profit and F1 racing funds...since the 360
is Ferrari's best selling car.


Ferrari will always be at a price disatvantage to large car builders
that put out an exotic.


So does the Ford GT beat the Lambo Gallardo?

 

Mark
Ferrari is a more profitable Co. than Ford. Lic. rev and sponsors fund F1.
As for the Murcie GTR, and Enzo/Maser we're going to find out as one group who tried to race the Pagani told me they're giving up on that car and are going to race a new Ford GT. Vrs. a Gallardo? I'll leave that one for Allan...

 

Most definitely. It should have a tougher time with the Gallardo and Murcielago than the Stradale. Ford has made the Z06 of the 100k+ price bracket but remain much cheaper than the exotics and the message to the Ferrari and Porsche engineers is to go pound sand.

Sunny

 

"The last time Ford built one of these No One could compete with them anywhere..."
That was before ford started to build escorts, fiestas, and focuses. Where is the respect. Ford got smart. You can built a car, but reputicion is hard to built which Ferrari has. I wouldn't buy a 1967 GT40 wanna be. If you have the money buy the original. It's like a kit car that is being built by a major manifacturer.
Shame on ford.

 

Sure they will. Famous quote: "The two most beautiful words in the English language: My Ferrari." "My Ford" doesn't have quite the same ring. The intangibles are all on Ferrari's side, especially for those who don't plan on drag racing.

Gary

 

Turk
I own an original. The Yellow one in the above Pic. I've seen the new one , I know the designers and engineers. This car is the real deal. As for racing Heritage Ford has a long and successful racing Heritage. Since Ford stomped Ferrari at LeMans Ferrari has Never finished 1 OA there again.

 

why is everyone here so worried what the ford will do to ferrari's market share when i see the problem as the gt3? the ford isnt even out yet in production form, may have less performance than this test indicates, has no list price yet so may be more $, is not very beautiful and is still a ford with associated dealerships. no probem for me to accept ferrari with a slight price premium here

gt3 meets cs performance head on for 1/2 price!!!!! new gt2 will be even worse and still cost less, be far less delicate, better dealership service/maintenance, etc. style/sound is all cs has to offer and the aftermarket can help p close that gap too. trouble

 

Gary
Leguna is a road course and 5 seconds a lap is huge. HUGE. At the 24 Hours of LeMans that would add up to a 3 hour lead by 4pm on sunday...

 

Napolis, good for you if you own that yellow beats. You are a lucky man. But I still have hard time to believe that Ford is gonna come back and build something that is gonna compare to a Ferrari. Long way beetween the fiesta and the Enzo.

 

Long way between the Enzo and anything!
http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112

 

Even a 360CS is gonna be hard to beat ( on all around compition )

 

According to Car magazine, the Ford GT will be produced over 3 years and a total run of 4500 units. Chances of getting one at list is probably slim to none.

 

Willis
How would 'Car" know? Why wouldn't Ford keep building them? Why would they tell me they already have a second version in the works?
At least you'll get to see one running around John lives up your way no?

 

Jim,

I'm just relaying what I read in that magazine. If you have the real scoop on production, please do tell.

I haven't seen Jon's new GT yet.

 

MadTurk, IMHO the Ford GT does more than compare with the 360, it destroys it ! It is faster, cheaper, will be cheaper to service, handles better per the skid pad numbers and looks better to me. The last time Ford decided to challenge Ferrari it beat it so bad that Enzo had races cancelled so his cars wouldn't get destroyed yet again. In fact, Ford continued to win until it decided to stop challenging Ferrari. While I love Ferraris and will own more in the future, I still recognize Ford's ability to beat them any time they decide they want to spend the money to do so.

 

Willis
I think they're gonna build them until the cows come home. (I stepped aside at 200K),557 whoa moma!

 

Jim,

If they come up with a MK IV version later on, could I paint mine like yours?

 

FYI for all of you in Europe who want one.
Just received the following from the European project team :

We are pleased to announce that we have been able to secure an increase in volume of the cars that will be officially imported into Europe - to 101 from the previously announced 80. This number reflects the quantity of original GT's that were produced by Ford in Europe. However, demand for the Ford GT has been so great that only 1 in 20 of the people that have so far registered with us will be successful in being able to buy one of the officially imported cars. The lucky few will be selected according to a set of criteria intended to match the most deserving and appropriate buyers with this iconic car. The President and COO of Ford of Europe, Lewis Booth, and his most senior executives will approve the final selection.

If you are serious about purchasing a GT you should complete the attached application form and return it to Ford Team RS by December 7th, 2003. This will provide us with the extra information we need to select customers.

 

Im sorry, but im not buying those performance numbers for the Ford. 0-150mph in 16.9 seconds would make it faster than a Pagani Zonda. The Ford is virtually the same weight, same power as a Viper SRT/10, and this test means it hits 150 about 4 seconds faster, also about 3 seconds faster than the Murcielago.

Road and Track just tested the Ford, and it numbers are nowhere near the ones here.

Also, the numbers for the 360 and Porsche look alittle slow, especially for the 0-150mph times. Theyre about 4 1/2 seconds off a Diablo 6.0's time.

 

Oh, no question the numbers are huge. As I said before, I frankly am having trouble believing them. Way out of line for a 500hp, 3400lb car. And still not a Ferrari, and that does mean something to me.

Gary

 

Gary
This car has closer to 650HP. If it passes durability at that boost that's what it's going to have. I suspect the one C&D tested was closer to that. Hey mine is 36 years old and it has 550HP without a supercharger.
It's also a bit lighter 2300lbs.

 

Well, you may be right, I have no inside info, but it's my bet the final version has 500hp. We'll know in a few weeks, I would think. I do agree the C&D car would have to have at least 650hp. And I'll bet the article says 500hp.

Gary

 

Gary,

Horsepower is the least of everyone's worries. The Mustang cobras are putting out 500-600bhp reliable with a couple of bolt ons for a couple of thousand dollars. The same will be done to the Ford GT.

I understood its 3100lbs not 3400lbs. It already has the chassis and the handling to hand to best the 360CS and a GT3 on the track. Remember, Ford dissected a 360.

The Ford GT is not meant to take the exotic market niche. Its bent to eliminate the competition performance wise sub $400,000 for around 1/3 of the price, something they have excelled at in the past. Even if its a fluke, the other manufacturers will have to get down on their knees and pray if Ford decides to reduce the weight even more.

Sunny