365GTC/4 NART Convertible

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Simon, Jul 9, 2004.

  1. Simon

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  3. Bryan

    Bryan Formula 3

    Pretty car, but it's not, as the ad claims, the same engine as a Daytona.
  4. zjpj

    zjpj F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
    In my opinion, the styling on this car just looks so American.
  5. amenasce

    amenasce Two Time F1 World Champ
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    AFAIK , its pretty much the same ..i think only a few minor things change.
  6. Bryanp

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    so Bryan, you gonna get the cutting torch out this weekend??
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  8. judge4re

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    Compression is different, heads are different, cams are different, carbs are different. About the only things they share is the displacement.
  9. Smiles

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    Personally, I really like it.

    Unfortunately, I imagine that a lot of people will assume it's a poorly done Daytona replica!

    But, again, I think it's nice.

  10. judge4re

    judge4re F1 World Champ

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    Who cares what other people think. :)
  11. Tspringer

    Tspringer F1 Veteran

    Apr 11, 2002
    I think this car is drop dead gorgeous. I would even be interested in owning it if the price were within reason... like $55K or so. But, I would guess they want twice that. Cut the roof, pretend its a Daytona, ask a Daytona price....

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  13. PSk

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    My understanding is the block is the same (BTW: as is the front suspension), and yes you are right the heads are different as the carbs feed between the cams instead of between the heads.

    I can see no reason why one could not produce an engine that is competitive with a Daytona from one of these ... but Ferrari did not want to, different purpose hence the lower compression.

    Exciting motor as is the Daytonas!

    Pete's opinion
  14. PWehmer

    PWehmer Formula 3

    Oct 15, 2002
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    Black is a good color for that model. Helps cover up the front cap.

    But IMO having a cut job on the roof doesn't help it's value even if Luigi Chinetti Jr. wrote the check to do it.

    Kinda like the 400i convertibles that don't sell well.
  15. vince308

    vince308 Formula 3

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    antoher convertible....

    owner : Van Halen .....
  16. Bryan

    Bryan Formula 3

    Torch ? We don't need no stinking torch...we have hacksaw!! aarrr, aarr, aarr.
  17. Bryan

    Bryan Formula 3

    C4 bore and stroke are same as a B4. The carbs are different (side draft DCOEs) to allow a lower hood line. The heads are different in order to allow a lower hood. The cams are different, and the compression is 8.8:1 vs B4 at 9.3:1. C4 has wet sump oil lubrication.

    While you can do almost anything to a car, if money is inexhaustible. The C4 engine, as is, is fine, but the torque and HP curves are different from a B4, by design, as you note. 320 hp @ 6200 vs 352/405 @ 7500. 318 lb-ft @ 4000 versus 365 lb-ft @ 5500.

    What's interesting to consider is how compatible a B4 cams might be in C4 heads.

    It is still is not, as the ad claims, the same engine as a Daytona.

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