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Discussion in '456/550/575' started by solly, Mar 2, 2004.

  1. solly

    solly Formula 3

    Jun 2, 2001
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    I'm looking for a 456 M so I can haul my 2 small children around with me. I have always loved the satisfying feeling of a gated 6 speed, but I have heard many comments that the automatic version is truly excellent.

    Anyone have any feedback on whether to go with a 6 speed or automatic?
     
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  3. Uberpower

    Uberpower Formula Junior

    Feb 6, 2004
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    A fully automatic Ferrari? Maybe if I lost a leg in Vietnam I would drive it to the VFW hall for wine-spritzers...

    Get the gate, thank me later.
     
  4. MS250

    MS250 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    GATE !!
     
  5. Onlinesys

    Onlinesys Formula Junior

    May 1, 2002
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    6-speed is no substitution on the 456 but I realize it is damn difficult to get a nice pro 98 456M with the "gate" in the market.
     
  6. shelbee

    shelbee Guest

    I think for this car I actually prefer a GTA (I was wrong about the GTA at first). It is not designed for very high speed although it has 430 plus HP on a V12 engine. I have driven GTA this past weekend, and it was surprisingly fast. I don't have to loose my leg in Vietnam war to drive the auto. Just put it on 3rd gear then press the gas pedal and the car will go. The power is always there when you need it and 90% of the time you will drive it as a regular auto and you are inside a FERRARI!! nothing likes MB feel

    I have driven the 6 speed but I think IMHO the 550 (also test drove the 6 speed 575M) is far more superior than 456M GT.

    I think for daily driver GTA is the way to go. No shields this time!!
     
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  8. 456mgt

    456mgt Formula Junior

    Mar 24, 2002
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    Well I would go with a 6 speed every time. If you're less than 100 years old and want to drive it, it's far more satisfying. IMO the auto on the 456 is not a very good 'box
    Sorry, can't let this one go! It's just wrong. This is a very fast car, it's just that most owners drive them slowly. Except me and Prancing.

    So have I, and I didn't find there was that much in it. I almost traded my Modena for a 550 to have alongside my 456, but while the 550 is faster, the two are so similar in concept and feel it didn't work for me.

    The fact than two people can have the opposite view of the same car indicates that you should try both yourself and see which one best suits the purpose you have in mind for it.

    Kevin
     
  9. Victory

    Victory Formula Junior

    Jan 28, 2004
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    Ferrari makes the only auto in the 456. So their experience is very poor. Stick with the manual.
     
  10. Ron328

    Ron328 F1 Rookie
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    Will your wife drive it and if she does, does she drive stick?
     
  11. bostonmini

    bostonmini Formula 3

    Nov 8, 2003
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    i just love the car...doesnt matter, but youll get a far better deal on a GTA i think no?
     
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  13. davequick

    davequick Formula Junior

    May 27, 2003
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    Auto? You'd have to kick your own ass every day for doing that.

    I'll be in the market at the end of the year for a 1998 456GTM... 1998 introduced traction control which my wife wants. My wife would kick your ass if you got an automatic ferrari.

    Seriously - the auto you lose additional trunk space due to the transmission, you are likely to meet financial ruin if anything goes bad in the automatic, and you're going to feel like you've got to straighten your skirt each time you sit in the drivers seat.

    Just my opinion.

    -dq
     
  14. Kds

    Kds F1 World Champ

    Didn't James G. post here that the tranny was a $50K replacement item ?
     
  15. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    If you can find one.
     
  16. GTB4NART

    GTB4NART Formula Junior

    Jan 17, 2004
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    I really like my 6spd. I would have liked an auto in my TR because heavy steering with a heavy clutch is a miserable combination in the city. The 456 has light steering and a light clutch - less notchy, easier shifting than most older Fcars too. I've driven the auto and it's pretty good - I'm sure it's rebuildable if it breaks. The autos seem to be for sale everywhere, resale not so good compared to the 6spd.

     
  17. Rosso Badger

    Rosso Badger Guest

    Jan 17, 2004
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    The autotrans in the 456 GTA is very primitive by any standards, and completely prehistoric when you compare it with a Tiptronic or similar system. It's very cluncky, jerky and slow.My old Jag in '82 had a better auto box.

    The 456 engine is so powerful, big and torquey that you can be really lazy with the manual box if you just want to cruise quietly. Go for the manual every time.
     
  18. Tennlee

    Tennlee Formula Junior

    Feb 10, 2002
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    ditto
     
  19. Davidindallas

    Davidindallas Formula Junior

    Nov 5, 2003
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    I wouldn't worry about resale as an issue as between the two options. While I love the car, I think the market is very soft, regardless of the choice. There seem to be fewer standards produced as the production went on (thus very few post-98 slush boxes). If I lived in an area of very high traffic (like in the middle of LA or NYC), I'd get the auto. Otherwise, the fear of rebuilding one of the world's 2000 or so 456 auto tranny's would be too much.
     
  20. Texas Forever

    Texas Forever Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Solly, I have never driven a 465, but based on my experince with a 550, I'd definitely go with the stick. The 550 has so much torque that basically you can drive around in 3rd and 4th, including a complete stop.

    Indeed, when I drive the 550, I always go from 1st to 3rd very quickly.

    I have had some people say that the clutch is too heavy, but these are P-car punks, and not real car guys! :)

    DrTax
     
  21. ARED4RE

    ARED4RE Formula Junior

    Mar 5, 2004
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    I drove a 456MGTA almost everyday for two years, 14500 miles... The auto is a clunky design; never in the right gea, slow to shift, r and no kickdown. Very nice car, however I would go with 6 speed. And only get a "M"...too many issues with the early model.
     
  22. shelbee

    shelbee Guest

    After reading the thread, I think I will get the 6 speed to be safe, late model at least 2001 or newer will be good with SHIELDS!! Perhaps this brand spanking new 03 GT Canna de Fucile with Sabia??
     

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