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  1. Mafiaboy1975

    Mafiaboy1975 Karting

    Aug 10, 2019
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    Hi. Anyone know what the approach angle is for a 458 spider, with and without the lifter.


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  3. axlesofevil

    axlesofevil Formula Junior
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    That probably depends on what market you're in. I believe US-market vehicles ride higher and have a higher approach angle than e.g. European-market cars.

    I have no idea what South Africa would be.

    Why do you want to know?
     
  4. Mafiaboy1975

    Mafiaboy1975 Karting

    Aug 10, 2019
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    I need to get it in the driveway of my new house, it does not look too high in the pic but it a 19cm curb and the current ramp is at a 18 degree angle. It need to stay like that for storm water or the house floods in heavy rain. I wanted to know what the max approach angle is for the 458 eg like 10or 8 degrees. I was thinking of just buying 2 aluminum ramps like these but wanted to work out the length first to ensure I have the right angle for the car

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  5. Mikael-F360

    Mikael-F360 Formula Junior

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    You can approach a 458 from any angle and it looks strikingly good!

    *sorry but couldn't resist :D
     
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  6. Mafiaboy1975

    Mafiaboy1975 Karting

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    Lol. You made me chuckle.


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  8. Rexcat458

    Rexcat458 Formula Junior

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    #6 Rexcat458, Apr 15, 2021
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2021
    Hello,

    I feel your pain... My bloody driveway requires a Sherpa guide and Mt. Everest climbing gear to summit it properly without scraping the front bumper, or rear diffuser on my 2015 458 Italia...

    I have the front lift option, thankfully... Even with the lift up, my entry approach angle is close to 45 degrees. I also have to use this extreme angle when backing out, or it will scrape...

    Several things are at play, the dip in the street at the front lip of the driveway, the height of the driveway front lip and the sweep angle of the driveway ramp from the lip up to the primary plane of the driveway. (Overhang from front of tires to the front of the bumper is also a factor).

    The height of your 458 will also be a factor, especially if it’s lowered. Thankfully, my 458 has not been lowered. Yes, I love the look of a lowered 458, but it’s not happening with my driveway.

    I do not use any supplemental ramps, I just use an extreme angle of approach to get up the driveway and exit it without damaging any of the lower body.

    You might take a look at Griots garage (not sure if they ship internationally, but probably will), they have rubber entrance ramps that fit at the end of your driveway that will still allow water to pass under them for drainage.

    I thought about them, but opted not to get them because we are in a small cul-de-sac and there is no spare room with the small turning radius of the cul-de-sac...

    Cheers!
     
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  9. RayJohns

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    My neighbors have a similar issue with their driveways. One bolted down a 1/2" steel plate, the other put down a big pipe and poured concrete over it.

    Ray
     
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  10. Melvok

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    Indeed the pragmatic solution Ray !
     
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  11. xBox

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    #9 xBox, Apr 19, 2021
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    Thats pretty savage, having to climb 19cm over such a short distance really brings the overhangs in to play, particularly the rear.

    I had a 16deg driveway, which I re-contoured down to around 10 at the exit.

    Some trial and error, plus a tip would be to come off front lift when you can, as it lowers the rear splitter when engaged.
     
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  13. Mafiaboy1975

    Mafiaboy1975 Karting

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    Thanks guys… at the moment some good old planks are doing the trick until I level out the slope a bit. I’m going to do something like this.
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  14. Whan

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    This - I have primarily relied on coming at the driveways at an angle, and turning the wheel first so that ideally the wheel contacts the ramp much earlier and improves the effective approach angle. Sometimes if the ramp is wide enough, I'll have the car almost perpendicular to the driveway and cut the wheel right, so the wheel almost goes up the ramp before the body. Unfortunately don't get it perfect every time, so luckily my car has a front skid plate which lessens the ouch factor, particularly on a lowered car without lift
     

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