458 458 Speciale advice

The “sister exotic repair shop” makes me nervous, but I’d get a third party PPI on any non-Ferrari dealer sale anyway so proceed with a regular amount of caution. Gorgeous car!

 

take it to F BH or F W for a ppi

 

That one has been for sale for years. Considered it before the Pista allocation.

 

No, not at all. I never saw it in person, but looks perfect in the pics. I was going to try to buy it through my dealer, and then he said I can get a Pista allocation. It was also $100k more than other Speciales at the time, but obviously low mileage. Still a stunner!


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Sean:

I purchased my 2015 Rossa Corsa with blue/white NART (launch-spec) car out of Ferrari San Antonio four months ago. I looked at 4 - 5 potential candidates, most of which were not local to me. I ended up doing 3 extensive out-of-state PPI's with the help of the network of a few key people.

The car you've found looks really nice in the pics and I'm surprised I missed this one during my search. Given the low miles and that it's a 1-owner locally owned (assuming that it stayed local), I think you a high probability of figuring this one out. Mechanically, it should be easy with factory service records. These cars have 7yr factory maintenance covered, so there should be no reason the Owner didn't take advantage of that. With your late-build June '15 car, you should have 1 factory service remaining, which is nice. With only ~800 miles on it, it's not likely the car was abused on the road or track.

I'd feel comfortable with the purchase after reviewing service records, getting it on a lift with a qualified mechanic (@ the servicing dealer is a plus), reviewing CARFAX report, and get a person who knows Ferrari paint and can assess PPF as well. If PPF is important to you, you should have an understanding of the coverage, brand of PPF, and current condition. The factory paint on these cars can lift during removal, so you'll want to know whether you're willing to take the risk of removing and replacing it after you've purchased it. Get the panels metered too to confirm that the panels have original paint and that a repaint isn't hidden underneath the PPF. There is a much higher probability of the paint lifting during the removal of PPF if the car had been previously repainted. An experienced person familiar with Ferrari paint should be able to extrapolate the thickness of the PPF, clear coat, and areas around the NART (which is usually thicker) to determine if the paint is original.

If you manage to get the car to a Ferrari dealership for the PPI, I'd ask if the car would qualify for CPO. If they would, it would be another good sign that the car checks out mechanically.

Other things to pay close attention to are the tires and interior buttons. I would expect that the buttons are mint given the miles. Buttons on my car with 2,100 miles were mint. If they aren't mint and deteriorating for whatever reason, this could be a negotiating point. Cost to refurbish them can be anywhere between $5 - $7.5k. If the car is on its original tires, they're aged out now and will require replacement.

Lastly, let me know if you need a person in the area that can do the paint inspection. My detailer, whom I've worked with over a decade and was instrumental in coordinating the out-of-state paint inspections, is located in Southern CA.

Best of luck!

 

Oh damn is that pricey.....

 

If you really are going to drive it, why not buy one with more miles? Or get a PPI on this one and a power warranty. Then drive it, which should sort out any issues, hopefully on Ferrari's dime. (I've never purchased a new car, and I've had really good luck with extended warranties on low mileage cars that I then drive hard. They break a few times and are all sorted within a year or two)

My car had a little bit of clear coat lift when removing factory PPF. Luckily it is down low and not something anyone will see. The buttons had all melted, which says more about the garage temperature than the amount of miles. I'll fix those properly this winter for about $7k, I don't care for the previous owners attempted fix. As for the powertrain, I got a two year new power warranty and I'm closing in on 2k miles driven in five months. So far, no issues beyond the not great sound coming out of it. That was properly fix recently.

 

I agree, a car at this ask should have full records and provenance. The lack of dealer-service visits is also supported by the Carfax as well. However, can one dealership see all dealer-service records?

If you have not walked away yet, I think it's the right move to have a Ferrari-specific independent and paint specialist inspect it and then go the route of doing new power warranty inspection and getting a 12 month warranty if you close the deal on it. Chances are, mechanically, the car should be fine. We're talking about (only) 850 miles.

Good luck and let us know how things unfold!

 

FFan5: You got a great car , I can attest to that.

I'm glad to you got the exhaust sorted and you're enjoying the sounds coming out of that glorious 9K V-8!

 

Also, this one just hit the market recently from an non F-car dealership. I was presented this car back in June off market (@ $435k), and have some photos, an interior video, and other information on it. It was supposedly a 1-owner car, owned by a collector out of San Diego, with 3,xxx miles. A well-spec'd car and exactly what I was looking for.

https://www.hbiauto.com/inventory/used-2015-ferrari-458-italia-speciale-rwd-2d-coupe-zff75vfa9f0208885/

Also has anyone looked into this '14 Rossa Corsa car at Ferrari Naples and know the price they are asking?

https://www.ferrariofnaples.com/inventory/certified-used-2014-ferrari-458-italia-speciale-rwd-2d-coupe-zff75vfa0e0202987/

 

RE: The HBI car - I'm sure this will not transact anywhere near $550k in today's market. Just wanted to provide a data point / example for you because I think the cars itself are comparable in specification.

RE: Naples car - yeah, OEM CF would be important to me if paying in that price range. It's quite the stripper-build -- no external CF options (no engine CF either), no lift is all I can tell without the build sheet.

 

Most dealers will not do a PPI. I suggest you have it done by F&M Motorsports on W. Pico in LA. Good luck. The car is epic.


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Sounds like you have the right view on this and have the patience. This is good! You will find the right car.

And yes, I found the perfect car for me and I think it's along the lines of what you are looking for. I've driven it 1,000+ miles over the past 4 months, which in my book, isn't quite enough!

 

I agree with you on the mileage! Thing is, the math adds up quickly. Let’s say one averages 1000 miles/4 months. That equals 3000 miles per year. On a 2015 Speciale heading into ‘22 that means your “average” Speciale should reasonably have at least 18K miles on it.
I wish they were all like that as I love to drive my Speciale!