458 Speciale shifting time

I think they both shifting in (0 milliseconds) , my 599 GTB shifting in (100 millisecond).

 

There is no such thing as 0 shifting time. F1 cars take about 20 ms. Speciale is circa 40-50 ms.

 

FYI scud is 60MS.
Does anyone know how much (of any) additional weight the dual clutch gearbox is? Curious to know the speed weight trade off.

 

In race modes:

F430 90ms
Scuderia 66ms
Italia 75ms
Speciale 60ms ... but feels faster.

 

Source?

 

No.

F430 150ms
Scuderia/16M 60ms
599 GTO 60ms

Source - Ferrari.

 

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True…
458 - 0 milliseconds (Dual Clutch Transmission)
599 GTB - 100 milliseconds (F1)
599 HGTE - 80 milliseconds (F1)
599 GTO - 60 milliseconds (F1)

 

The Speciale shifts faster than the Italia according to Ferrari and since you can't shift quicker than 0 milliseconds the Italia is not 0ms - for that matter neither is the Speciale.
When Porsche launched the latest GT3 they promoted the fact that they were the first DCT to break 100 ms - no idea if they are correct, if they are then the Italia is 100ms+.
http://press.porsche.com/vehicles/2014/2014_GT3_USA.pdf

 

Some people don't realise that you cannot do anything within absolutely zero time.

 

F355: 250 ms
360: 150 ms
575M: 220 ms
Challenge Stradale: 150 ms
612: 180 ms
575M HGTC: 180 ms
F430: 150 ms
612 HGTS/HGTC: 160 ms
599: 100 ms
612 Sessanta/OTO: 100 ms
612 OTO HGT2: 80 ms
Scuderia/16M: 66 ms
599 HGTE: 80 ms
599 GTO: 66 ms
458 : ~75 ms
Speciale : 60 ms

Ferrari stated that the Speciale upshifts 20% faster than before...

Any timing less than 100 ms is apparently advertised as zero... LOL

Response time seen at 1.14m
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_u_KJ-Log]Ferrari 458 Speciale - Focus on performance - YouTube[/ame]

 

Interesting to see the published figures for the Speciale.

Looking at the video below I don't think Ferrari have actually told us the shift speed for the Speciale (5.18mins), 'response time' of 0.060 in the videos is nothing to do with gear shift speed! LOL
That's why the Scud is showing at 0.066 when we all know the gear shift time is actually 0.06.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31UqSvTLcWg

 

True … Nothing is absolute Zero, Ferrari neglect (never published) the four digits after point in millisecond, therefore 458 is 0.00XX ms and Speciale is 0.00XX ms.

Do you wanna know what is the 00XX after the point then ask Ferrari for the number. As they are always publish the "0" ms shifting time and never declared the the four digits letter after the point.

1 second = 1000 ms so when they stated GTO = 60 ms = 0.06 second if 458 is 0.00XX ms, Ferrari will call 0.00 ms = 0 ms.

 

A nice chart illustrating the F1 SuperFast 2 shift times across 430, 599, Scuderia and F1 car:

2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia Shift Time Comparison Photo 16

 

Actually a really good double clutch gearbox is about as fast as Ferrari F1 Superfast. McLaren for example claims 40ms and I think Porsche claims 100ms. So no, it's not in the 0.00X area.

 

I was told by the Ferrari service that 458 italia shifts in 0.040 sec.

 

Was going to ask about Stradales, but saw you already answered

 

Figures are wrong.

 

Not all are ... only the DCT versions are inconclusive because Ferrari does not seem to officially state this facts anymore.

If you have any information, please do share ....

Challenge Stradale is most likely 150 ms ... a great keeper indeed.

 

My 'Not correct' reference was to the post which listed just 4 shift times - Not one of these was correct!

Correct figures:
F430 150ms
Scuderia/16M/GTO 60ms
Italia - unpublished
Speciale - unpublished

 

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DCT never published, they all said "Lighting fast shifting" due 2 dual clutches combine together in 1 transmission. I would say either single digit millisecond or less therefore they never bother publish the figure, it does not make to much different in time for Dual clutches. Why bother?

 

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They don't publish them because they are slower than everyone thinks. They are smooth so feel seamless.
Porsche have been honest about the speed,.

 

right,only spec available is max torque clutch is able to hold,900nm for cali and 458

 

Just to add to the "not correct" list, the MP4 / 650S shift time is 50ms, not 40.