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488 GTB -- Turning off Start&Stop system?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Lou B., Jun 23, 2020.

  1. Lou B.

    Lou B. Rookie

    Jun 4, 2020
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    Does anyone know how to keep the Start&Stop system off?
    This is what the owner's manual states, but it doesn't work as stated:

    "Each time the instrument panel is switched on (KEY-ON), the
    Stop&Start system remains in the same state it was in when
    the vehicle was switched off (KEY-OFF). If the function was
    activated at KEY-OFF, it remains activated at the next KEY-ON
    and the LED on button A will flash for a few seconds."
     
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  3. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

    Jan 21, 2017
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    I think it depends on the model year - with early cars, one could set it off and never think again about it, while with newer cars it defaults to "on" at each start up.
     
  4. Redneck Slim

    Redneck Slim Formula Junior
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    I had VR Tuned flash my Portofino ECU,and I asked them to disable the Stop/Start at the same time. So in addition to an exhilarating increase in horsepower and torque,no more annoying Stop/Start.
     
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  5. jdlegg

    jdlegg Karting

    Dec 22, 2009
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    My 2019 488GTB requires the start/stop button push at every start-up. It's become second nature to just push it - same thing I have to do in my AMG.
     
  6. Lou B.

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    Thanks. I'm also inquiring directly with Ferrari and will let you know what I found out if/when I get a response.
     
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  8. mkraft3003

    mkraft3003 Formula Junior

    Aug 20, 2016
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    In the US you have to deactivate it every time.
     
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  9. JDINPA

    JDINPA Rookie

    Aug 30, 2017
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    This post correct
    My 2017 488 GTB is once & done with this. Have to admit it would drive me ******* to have this happen in a Ferrari. Recommend ECU mod


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  10. Lou B.

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    Mine is a 2019, and I think jdlegg and LVP488 are right in that they changed it on later models to default to "on" -- ugh!
     
  11. scott61

    scott61 F1 Rookie

    Feb 11, 2004
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    I have a 2019 and most times my car does not shut off so I don't bother hitting that button at startup. At least the car does not have cylinder deactivation, my 2015 Huracan didnt have it but 2016+ does and a big reason I didnt buy another one
     
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  13. mdrums

    mdrums Formula Junior

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    My 2019 never turns off when stopped...I never new the car had this function. Totally lost
     
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  14. Redneck Slim

    Redneck Slim Formula Junior
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    It's a mandatory option on USA cars. You got lucky. Can you turn it on using the overhead button?
     
  15. Lou B.

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    Not sure it's mandatory, as it seems to be an option that one pays extra for called HELE (High Emotion Low Emissions), the on/off button replaces the middle dome light button. It is listed on my options placard.
     
  16. BLACK CARS

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    Sep 23, 2016
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    Stop-start gives the manufacturers a little MPG credit with the EPA. so it is not mandatory per se but becomes mandatory for the certification. Have 2017 GTB and am not sure if it even there but in any case, it doesn't have this pain. My wife's 2019 Portofino has it and we certainly appreciate this saving of 1/2 gallon per year in gasoline. Unfortunately, it is on the overhead and something that is often overlooked when starting. On our Boxster 2018 GTS, it is in the center and again overlooked until it becomes a nuisance. Was wondering what effect would be to jump the backside of the switch/wires so that ir always stays off without intervention. Not sure if this is possible.
     
  17. Redneck Slim

    Redneck Slim Formula Junior
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    If you go through the Configurator (at least the older one which was much more complete),you will see that HELE was an option but standard on USA cars. It could not be deleted (which I tried to do).
     
  18. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

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    On the 488 in Europe HELE was reported as an option but it was actually mandatory from the start - my 2015 has it although I did not select it, and to add insult to injury I had to pay the extra for it... fortunately I could switch it off forever.
     
  19. C50

    C50 Formula 3

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    My 2016 488 does not have start/stop. No HELE listed on options plate.
    I provide this as a data point for people shopping 488s. If you don’t want to deal with the fuss, you may get lucky with a 2016.
    Personally, I am happy to not have it.
     
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  20. BCHOW

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    My previous early production 2019 488 Spider didn’t have it. However, my 2020 Pista is mandatory and I have to turn it off every time .


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  21. FPFaeth

    FPFaeth Formula Junior

    Dec 3, 2009
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    Per the manual, feature is optional on the 2018 488. "Stop&Start system (optional)." When I purchased mine, I recall the dealer mentioning that it was an option.
     
  22. wrs

    wrs F1 Veteran
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    I didn't have it on my 2018 488. Unfortunately my 812 and Portofino have it and the button has to be pushed each time. It's an annoyance I have been living with on the RR for quite a while so now all three cars have it. I bet eventually it won't be possible to turn it off, just something else to go wrong.
     
  23. Luk77

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    What button should I push? I have a Pista spider and it’s too annoying...
     
  24. scott61

    scott61 F1 Rookie

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    On the 488 it's up on the map light
     
  25. mdrums

    mdrums Formula Junior

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    2019 488GTB...can not find a stop/start system on my car. Car does not turn off at idle like at a stop light for example. Glad I do not have this
     
  26. tickerhound

    tickerhound Formula Junior

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    High emotion- it sure pisses me off when I forget to disable it each time I drive. It's really embarrasing.
     
  27. buddyg

    buddyg F1 Rookie
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    All US F8’s have it, just have to get in the habit of starting the car and immediately hitting the button. In my wife’s Navigator after I start the car I switch it into Excite mode, hit the button to turn off start/stop, hit the auto hold button, hit the massage button and turn on the cruise control every time I get in. Sounds like a lot but literally takes like 4 seconds.
     
  28. Lou B.

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    Formula Junior, you might have an earlier year version when it was “optional.” I believe the in later production years it became a required option for the US.
     

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