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488 Pista Value

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by customryder, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. customryder

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    Hi Guys,
    Looking for info/opinions what a 2019 Pista Red with 800 ish miles is worth? Are they selling over sticker still?
    Thanks!

    Suggested Port of Entry Retail Price $345,300.00 Delivery, Process, Prep & Handling Fee $3,750.00 Additional Costs $17,140.00 Options AFS SYSTEM $2,531.00 YELLOW BRAKE CALIPERS $1,519.00 CARBON FIBRE FRONT FLAPS $4,387.00 CARBON FIBRE SIDE AIR SPLITTER $3,712.00 ENGINE COVERS IN CARBON FIBRE $8,099.00 REAR DIFFUSER IN CARBON FIBRE $11,811.00 CARBON FIBRE INNER SILL TRIM $1,687.00 COLOURED SAFETY BELTS $979.00 SUSPENSION LIFTER $6,243.00 HORSE STITCHED ON HEADREST $1,266.00 BLACK CERAMIC EXHAUST PIPES $1,687.00 HANDLY FIRE EXTINGUISHER $1,097.00 CARBON FIBRE REAR MOULDING $5,062.00 TWO-TONE STRIPE $15,187.00 OTHER OPTIONS $5,788.00 Total Suggested Retail Price $437,245.0
     
  2. C50

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    sticker is 437
    what is the ask?
    do they sell over sticker? there are many opinions but not many solid data points.
    seems like the external carbon is incomplete, which some do not prefer for purely cosmetic reasons. This is obviously for you to decide if you care.
    What's the internal colors?
    most importantly, how badly do you want it?
     
  3. SoCal to az

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    Private party or dealer?
     
  4. Carrerarsr

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    Let me just understand that the engine bay and the rear diffuser are not in carbon fibre as a Standard, right ? I mean in the US. Mine has all that as a standard here in Europe.
     
  5. C50

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    correct
    there was a long thread discussing this some time ago.
    EU standard spec "included" all the carbon.
    US it is a la carte.
     
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  6. Carrerarsr

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    Not all is included. There was still some space to inflate the price. Thanks for the info. I was always wondering about the almost 500 grand usd prices for the car.
     
  7. C50

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    Many ways to inflate. Papa Enzo knows all the tricks.
    Here is part of the US pricing that shows the different carbon bits (in USD)
    Pardon the highlights.
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  8. mkraft3003

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    It’s worth what someone is willing to pay. Why not make an offer at msrp and see what response you get? As others have posted, is this private party or from a dealer? I would think the ask would be 50k over but a lot more have been delivered now. Let us know what info you find out and good luck!
     
  9. Carrerarsr

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    Aloha, yes thats different. Side air splitters, front flaps and rear moulding I had to pay for.
     
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  10. LVP488

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    In Europe there was actually the same list of options codes, but CEFS, CEIS, CEL2, CISC, CITZ and EXAT were bundled into PPAC and made mandatory (at least initially, I do not know whether it was eventually changed).
     
  11. customryder

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    Dealer has the car. I already tried msrp they say no go.
     
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  12. mkraft3003

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    So how much over list are they looking? There are not many listed for sale so I think the value is really what someone is willing pay for it (speaking for the US since I have no clue what the other markets are).
     
  13. Coincid

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    Give him some time. When it becomes apparent that demand might not meet his expectations, the asking price will become more reasonable.
     
  14. sampelligrino

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    There seem to be at least a few that are available for sale but not listed, even just wasting time scrolling through IG I’ve seen at least two white ones available recently (F San Diego and F Ft Lauderdale). I bet if you are a willing and able cash buyer inquiring around you’d find some come out the woodwork along with whats on AutoTrader

    One nice silver spec sold earlier this year before many deliveries happened at 40-50 over in the classifieds with an Fchat discount mentioned. So that would be the ceiling for me if I was in the market and it was my money. Being that it’s not, it’s what you are comfortable spending with your hard earned $


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  15. Gh21631

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    The car is likely on consignment so you have to be able to cover the dealers fee + whatever the seller wants over his price. You will likely land around $40K to $50K over and maybe they split it but it depends on how bad someone wants to sell it.
     
  16. Gh21631

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    It seems demand is there as there aren't any real competitors to the Pista right now. It is the best looking most limited car available in its price range. With fewer than 900 in the states you wont see many.
     
  17. Coincid

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    No dispute with your assertion. However, many have bloated expectations initially on how much their car will fetch over MSRP. Too bad the buyers did not purchase the car to own instead of flipping to make some bucks. Your estimate of $50k over sounds about right.
     
  18. clockem

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    In the US just check websites of several dealers like Boardwalk Ferrari and Beverly Hills. They have numerous Pista’s listed for sale.
     
  19. Gh21631

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    There are a few out there but no one is giving them away. I think if they dont get their number the owner likely keeps it.
     
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  20. leopoldo

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    There are a couple of pista spider for sale in Europe between 200 to 250 k euros over sticker
     
  21. U-Boat Commander

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    Also keep in mind that many US Pista buyers had to buy a Lusso and lost money on the Lusso. So not many will be willing to sell for less than $50K or so over.
     
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  22. Stormtrooper787

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    They will come down. I was just offered 30k over on a 500k spec which is really high.
     
  23. leopoldo

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    for a pista spider ??????
     
  24. LVP488

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    There are many Pista on mobile.de asking for less than 50K euros over sticker - some claiming reduced asked price. The cheapest Pista spider is asking 470 K euros which is certainly less than 100 K euros over list, so the ones asking for 200 / 250 K over are not likely to sell (which btw does not mean one asking for 100 K over list will sell easily).
     
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