Well, turns out according to Ferrari they are the same car... Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I can be objective since I had a F8 on order when the pandemic shuttered the plant and i subsequently bought a Pista. I have driven the F8 and and there is a visceral difference favorable more to the Pista. Great car and clean interior though.
Interesting how you are ever so helpful. I’m new to Ferrari and would love a Pista, any info would be greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I don’t understand this post. You’re hardly “new to Ferrari” unless I’m missing something. Anyhoo, there’s zero difference AKAIK between Pista and F8 engine. There’s different gearbox software.
No there's a lot more to it and you would not be saying what you are if you'd driven the two. This is why I say to those who haven't - please stop and spare yourselves from any further embarrassment by suggesting there is no difference just because the complete engine assembly is essentially the same as a spare part. I recall similar discussion when the GT2 was announced to share the same basic engine as the tts. Let me just say I just spent the last two days in a 992tts and stepping back into the 2rs is crystal clear the engine, and the car as a whole, is operating on an entirely whole new (next) level. You can't really compare the regular versions to the track focused versions as they are in another galaxy altogether. This isn't to say the f8 or 2tts aren't worthy or good cars. But in terms of driver engagement and point a to point b performance the difference is absolutely night and day. No comparison. So plastique999 I hope you get where I'm coming from. Drive the two then come tell me if i'm right or wrong and if its worth pursuing any further discussion that they are same thing. Sometimes you just gotta look beyond the parts. It doesn't matter what the times are at the end of the 1/4 or how close they are - its what happens in between point a and point b on the go, when driving these cars in various driving environments.
this post is full of contradiction. Per Ferrari themselves, they lifted the engine from the Pista and dropped it in the F8. How the total Package comes together is a different story. You even stated in your post the parts are the same. The question was if the engine is the same (which it is) not if the driving experience is the same.
So what is the point you are trying to make? Plastique999 was clearly looking to read about actual differences between two cars which share the same engine gearbox and body shell. Or maybe i'm mistaken? I'm saying there are very notable differences. Not little. They may as well be two different cars except the body shell and seating position gives the game away somewhat.
I’d re-read his post. “Is there any difference in the engine” does not mean is there any difference period.
Plastique999 says: Interesting how you are ever so helpful - directed in a sarcastic but polite manner to ipsedixit who told him to search. Plastique says: I’m new to Ferrari and would love a Pista, any info would be greatly appreciated. SF says : I didn't read him asking that in the post which you responded. And then (as in now) SF (me) suggests to look beyond the spare parts and general assemblies. Anyway I don't want to argue with you Jo sta7. I'm just pointing out there is a lot of discussion going on based upon an obvious lack of first hand experience. I would have thought it would have been very helpful to have had that at least. But maybe i'm mistaken - again. Sometimes having first hand experience - as I have with these two - is an Achilles heel in these types of discussions, as few can handle the truth and will seek to fight it at every turn even though they have no experience in the said cars in question.
I was just trying to answer his question, his direct question, with no supposition or unnecessary prolixity. I was also expressing my confusion as to his statement as, per his ownership history he’s not “new to Ferrari” and he’s active on these boards.
The salient difference between the Pista and F8 is due to suspension setting, transmission mapping and modest weight reduction.
Thank you for answering my question. I am fully aware that each subsequent model Ferrari produces enhances technological advances, and that limited production models are generally improved by weight reduction, suspension tweaks and power/transmission upgrades (although the Pista is not a numbered car or specifically limited, it often is viewed as the “race version” of the 488). The reason for my question is that if you look at the V8 line and each subsequent model starting with the 308, there is a bump in horsepower for each successor. So to my knowledge, the Pista -> F8 is the first time that the engine block and internals has not changed when transitioning to a newer model. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think this is because it is a stop gap before the LB. Easy way to pick up sales while completing development on the replacement.
The F8 is certainly an oddball in this regard. As was mentioned, it's a stop gap model before the hybrid monster comes in 2022.
Ok, no sarcasm this time. But your question, if indeed it was serious, essentially opens up not just a box that belongs to Pandora, but her entire freaking closet. You can read up to your heart's content about the "differences" between the F8 engine and the Pista engine. Some will say its simply software, like these fine gents: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/f8-tributo-vs.601499/page-5 Others will say there is no difference, like the folks here: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/f8-tributo-vs.601499/page-4#post-146764453 Then there are those who explain the difference as one being from the Challenge car versus an "evolved" 488 engine: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/pista-or-refresh.595411/page-3#post-146494514 Good luck making heads or tails, or both, out of all that.
Pista v F8. Engines feel the same. Cars feel different. And personally, I love them both, different as they are.
