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  1. tazandjan

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    #652 tazandjan, Aug 3, 2013
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    Ferrari built two pre-production 575Ms during the 550 production run, 123764 and 123765, that were used for testing, development, and writing owners manuals, workshop manuals and other tech data. These two 575Ms predated the Geneva show car, 125371, Assembly Number 43148, by several months. The first of these, I believe, was an F1 car and the second, shown here, was a three pedal car. Ferrari later updated both these pre-production models to production specs and sold them to the public. This particular 575M, 123765, is Argento Nurburgring with Blu Scuro interior and resides in Italy.

    Note that the production data on the 575M and the first serial number built information in Cavallino magazine are in error. Production number for the 550 is also incorrect at 3600 vs the correct 3083.

    These two pre-production 575Ms were built around March 2001, nearly a year before production versions became available.
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  3. omd78

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    And the other one..?

    Gr. Martin
     
  4. tazandjan

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    Martin- Beats me. The owner of 123765 came forward and identified himself to me. Have not heard from the other owner.
     
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    More info on 123765. Assembly Number is 42157. The serial number lines up with March 01 builds, but the assembly number matches cars completed in June 01. The car was then kept by Ferrari for nearly two years testing and not sold to the original owner until March 03, by which time it had been brought up to production spec.
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  6. canadianferrarista

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    Terry - I just wanted to let you know that my Assembly Number for my 2005 575 is 57041 instead of 57044 as listed on the list that you have for Serial # 139487.

    Thanks
     
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    #659 tazandjan, Sep 6, 2013
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    Thanks to and Italian friend, who owns an HGTC, and his Feb 06 575M/SA WSM, here are the alignment specs for the HGTC 575M.

    Also, here are the specs on the suspensions for the HGTC and FHP 575Ms, done on a percentage basis compared to the base 575M:

    HGTC

    Front Springs: 35% Stiffer
    Rear Springs: 15% Stiffer
    19.5 mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 73% Stiffer

    FHP

    Front Springs: 32% Stiffer
    Rear Springs: 12.5% Stiffer
    21 mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 133% Stiffer

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  10. Elsi

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    Thank you Terry!
     
  11. Ian 575m hgtc

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    Hi Taz, I have just bought 141692, she has done 13k Kms and is in yellow, location Thailand!
     
  12. tifosi_

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    I don't understand?
    I have no idea how to find out the assembly #, but my VIN # is ZFFBV55A020129983, which seems to be a completely different sequence than what you've posted???
     
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    Oh by the way, mine is just a regular 2002 575M, not a HGTC, is that why?
     
  14. greyboxer

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    Assembly No ? See post #30

    VIN ? makes sense = Serial Number 129983
     
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    I couldn't find where it said how to find the Assembly # in post 30, can you please reprint it again?
     
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    Post 30 in this thread has the page from an owners manual and points you to picture 5 - if you cannot work it out why not just look at the owners manual where it tells you on page 1.6 (approx) how to find the assembly no...
     
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    Found the picture, thanks greyboxer, sorry to be a pain
     
  19. tazandjan

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    Was just able to confirm that the HGTC 575s came with the standard 575M/Superamerica hydraulic steering ECU, part number 168034, not the FHP ECU 175891.

    HGTC owners wanting to improve steering feel on their cars can buy the FHP ECU or one from John, Dave, and David's Skunkwork, which will be reflashed with the FHP hydraulic assist scheduling maps.
     
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    how HGTC were built ?
     
  22. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Bernard, Bill- Yellow one is very nice. Would love to have that one myself, except for the racing seats.

    The red car has steel brakes and standard exhaust, so is not an HGTC.

    No clue on how many HGTCs were built. WAG of somewhere between 100 and 200.
     
  23. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Rob kindly made the old serial number vs assembly number a sticky and renamed it to 575 technical thread, since that is what it really is. Hopefully will make it easier for owners to find what the are looking for.

    John- I can insert the 550-575M differences chart in here if it will make it easier for you to find.
     
  24. Cribbj

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    Go right ahead Taz, but I do like having that separate dedicated thread about the differences in the two models. If nothing else, it helps me update the chart :)
     

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