Ivo- Great stuff, thanks. All incorporated into this version. Carbon- The 575M HGTC is sometimes referred to incompletely as the 575M with GTC package or with the GTC handling package. The only 575M or Superamerica cars with factory CCM brakes came with the HGTC package. The CCM brakes were not available separately or as part of the FHP package, which came with its own steel disc brakes with racing pads in the calipers. If a 575 has Ferrari CCM brakes, it is almost certainly an HGTC. Somewhere out there if probably the one individual who upgraded his 575 to CCM brakes for $30K or so, but have not heard from him yet. The exhaust would have been another $14K No problem on the typo. I knew it was Don's car. This brings up another interesting point. Ferrari learned when they saw all the 575 owners upgrading their cars to FHP standard and received queries about upgrading to the HGTC standard. For the 599 GTB, Ferrari is offering kits to upgrade 2008 and later cars to the 599 GTB HGTE standard. The kits and installation are expensive, but way cheaper than buying the parts and upgrading the car yourself. Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login
Drew- On the window sticker it says Handling GTC Package. In the FNA bulletin it says 575 Maranello GTC Handling Package. In the parts catalog it says HGTC. In the factory build sheets the option code is HGTC for the Handling GTC Package. Take your choice. As long as the "H" or "Handling" is somewhere in there, everybody knows what package is being discussed. Taz Terry Phillips
Okay, 122976 is a 2001 360 F1 Spider, red/black, in Japan; don't know the assembly number, but it's not 46985, and nothing is available for 46985. Assembly numbers 46984 and 46986 are both 575Ms.
I think the dealers are also promoting the HGTE package for the 599 as a factory original option more aggressively than might have been the case with the 575 and HGTC. When I was looking at one, my sales guy basically said "you're going to want this", implying that because of the power & weight, one would definitely want the beefier brakes just for safety's sake. Not sure if others have had the same experience.
It's very easy to misread VINs from the steering wheel-plate if one is not common with it. A "C" is very easy to be mistaken with "0". The capitals are, as you know, printed very "fat" into the plastic plate and depending on the angle of view and light mistaking might be easier than not to fail. For me, it's very obviously a "C"-car.
Matthias- I agree with you that it is a typo. Here is the latest version incorporating Ivo's latest entry. Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login
If you ever wondered what was on your 575M, here is the answer. The 575M was updated almost continuously during production. The biggest change came at Assembly Number 52556 in late CY 2003, MY 2004, when a steering angle sensor was added that resulted in major changes to ECUs and wiring harnesses. Another major change came when shocks and related equipment were changed in MY 2005. If I can find a Superamerica parts catalog, I should be able to add that car, too. Have not played with the 550, but that is possible, too, if there is enough interest. Note this is for US/Canadian cars, but European and RHD cars changed at the same Assembly Number, only the parts numbers are different. Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login
Sheehan's latest sale. Ad showed the VIN and assembly number for their silver with blue manual 2002 575M that sold for $100K. Thanks to Ketel for highlighting. http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/carintro.php?reqcardir=FE-575M-129315 Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login
The latest version incorporating Rob's 575M 131762. How about some photos, Rob, or did I miss them? Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login
The latest version of the updates document. Very early 575Ms, for example the Geneva show car 125371, assembly number 43148, did not have the new style cam belts that extended the recommended change interval to five years after assembly number 43847. It appears this did not affect a large number of cars and possibly only the preproduction European models. The earliest US/Canadian 575M was 126969, according to an FNA bulletin, and would have been fitted with the five year belts. Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login
Found another HGTC 575 SA, 145398, assembly number 62680, Ross Corsa with tan and carbon fiber. Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login
I don't have pictures, but this car is loaded; used to belong to our very own Dr. Martin Weiner. Grigio Titanio with black interior, carbon fiber interior trim, battery charger, CD, black floor mats with silver prancing horses, hard-wired for a Valentine, Paul Bianco fender shields, modular wheels wrapped in P Zeros, all grilles painted aluminum, Tubi with Stebro pipes, etc. Thanks, Terry. Do you know if this car is F1 or manual...?
WOW, that was impressive! You got it exactly right. F1 tranny as well. I have some pics posted in other threads, just non dedicated to my car. Look for pics in the thread introducing the blue 575 in Europe and the silver grill thread. The hard wire radar also worked with my Escort 9500 and I have since added a ZR4 laser shifter. Worked beautifully on the 550 miles road trip I just got back from. I also added a custom made center console with a cup holder, pics of that will follow shortly.
Thanks, Terry! Rob, that's awesome - great to see someone driving it. I have all of the details on your car because it was for sale in July, 2005, through Ron Tonkin, and then a month later, Martin put it up for sale himself, 11,734 miles. Then the Auto Gallery had it for sale two months, 9 May 2009, 15,436 miles, $129,995. Is it safe to assume that's where you acquired the car...?
Yes, Auto Gallery had it on consignment from the 2nd owner who had moved on to another F-car from them. I flew out to LAX for a wedding, stopped at AG on the way to the resort for a test drive, and closed the deal the next day.
Yeah, but there's no assembly number. This thread is about serial numbers and assembly numbers. Thanks for the details, Rob. Every piece of information is appreciated.
Carbon- Right you are. Just in case anyone has lost the bubble on the serial number and assembly number thing, the assembly number determines what updated equipment was fitted to a 575M/SA. Actually true for any Ferrari. There is an update list that allows the owner or the potential buyer of a 575M to tell what is on a 575M if he has either the serial number or the assembly number. There were really major updates in the MY 04/05 575Ms, and you can also tell from the lists whether you can upgrade some parts (ie HGTC ECUs) on your 575M. This might also help in a choice between two similar cars, with the later one having the benefit of one or more major upgrade packages. Here are the latest revisions of both. Taz Terry Phillips Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
There is something odd in the lists. According to my assembly number I should have a Sony CD changer, but in fact I have a Becker. Window sticker confirms it came with the car and there is no mention in the records (and I have all of them) of a swap post-delivery. Any ideas?
Could be as simple as: Luigi: "Hey Mario, We're out-a tha Sony's" Mario: "Put-a tha Becker in there and come eat your linguini, it's-a getting cold."
