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Discussion in '612/599' started by rngssw, Jan 4, 2020.

  1. rngssw

    rngssw Rookie
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    Hi, everyone, newbie here. I am interested in a 599 in Texas but their car started off as a Canadian car. Sometime in 2011ish it was imported to the US ( or at least was registered in Nevada). However, the speedo is in km/h and the odo is the same. The temp knobs are in Celsius too.

    I have not personally seen the car, just talked to the dealer briefly. I am from Illinois so it is not like I can just pop in. My question is if these can be changed? Do I need to worry about anything else? Or should I just look for a different one for the cost and trouble involved?

    Your insights are really appreciated.

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  2. flat_plane_eddie

    flat_plane_eddie F1 Rookie
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    What price are they asking? Unless it's significantly cheaper (I'm not sure myself what that means exactly) I wouldn't bother. You're always going to have lower resale due to that.
     
  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    FAI should be able to swap out the gauge faces and reset the panel so the odometer reads in miles instead of kms. Call Rod and check.

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  4. rngssw

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    2 owners, 14k miles, CPO, asking $140. However, based on my discussion, not a lot of service records other than those in the dealer database.

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  5. rngssw

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    Thanks. Will check with them.

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  6. George Vosburgh

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    I might be mistaken, but can't you recalibrate the screen in Fahrenheit ? As for the speedo, I personally use the screen display more than the actual speedometer which again I thought you could reprogram.
     
  7. flat_plane_eddie

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    You can find pretty much the same car for the same asking amount if not a bit less. So given that, why would you want to bother with converting it? Not to mention the lower resale due to being a Canadian car.
     
  8. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Canadian Ferraris and US Ferraris are identical except for the gauges. They both have the same destination code in the VIN and are supplied by FNA.
     
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  9. flat_plane_eddie

    flat_plane_eddie F1 Rookie
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    Do Canadian cars also come with the California emissions sticker?
     
  10. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    There is no separate CA emissions sticker for NA cars. Has not been for a long time. May happen again if they go off the deep end.
     
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  11. RonH

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    You have to decide whether it is worth it relative to other cars on the market and they do have less issues (albeit the KM seems relatively minor but it is still a story nonetheless). Also remember all the list prices are asking prices, not sales prices. In the current market $140K might be high for this. Here is an 08 with 7K miles that recently sold on BAT for 126K. That is a benchmark that is verifiable.

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  12. rngssw

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    That's my thinking as well. No service records is my concern as well. I do want to find out how difficult it is to have it change.

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  13. flat_plane_eddie

    flat_plane_eddie F1 Rookie
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    I guess what I meant is the 50 state emissions sticker or whatever it's called. Every time I've bought a car into California from another state they look for the emissions sticker to also state California on it.
     
  14. flat_plane_eddie

    flat_plane_eddie F1 Rookie
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    If you're patient and wait until February or March I think you can find a 599 in a similar condition for something in the 120s. Might already be possible now. I know last year this time they dipped to 110 but we'll see if they go that low again.
     
  15. 360Marnix

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    As a spare I have a miles instrument cluster in the garage. If you pay the shipment from Europe you can have mine and I'll take yours.
     
  16. afwrench

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    Hi 360 M,if you know, what is involved in taking the cluster out ? Mike
     
  17. 360Marnix

    360Marnix Formula Junior

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    I never done it, so I don't know. Tomorrow I will take a closer look at the cluster!
     
  18. Samuel Misrasi

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    $140k for that car seems quite over priced.
     
  19. turbolou

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  20. randkin

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    Terry, I don’t think that is correct, my 08 612 OTO car has a CA compliant sticker. I checked it in Salt Lake Ferrari where I got it. When I went to register the car in CA the person at the DMV just looked briefly at the CA compliant sticker and that was all the research they did. She said w/o the sticker it was a big deal to register the car in CA.
    Maybe 599s are different?
     
  21. George Vosburgh

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  22. turbolou

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    Thanks George, I didn't take it because it isn't a fire sale. The shields are real . Do you have anything more positive to add to this intelligent post.
     
  23. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    I agree. I would think that is a 120K car give or take. 2007 and all black doesn't help but you do have the CCM brakes. Good luck with the sale.
     
  24. George Vosburgh

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    I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers,sorry. GLWS
     
  25. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
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    I would add this while not a 599 I did own a Canadian Ferrari .. I had no problem titling it and all the specs are the same only thing is the gauges as you mention .. you should know that if you sell it one day it will likely go for less money then a USA car.. I had a Barchetta pretty rare car and paid less for it .. maybe 10% less and sold it for maybe the same amount less... IF you change the speedometer I would suggest it be done by someone that will certify the mileage I even bought a new speedo and kept the old with the car and had place do it that would document the mileage .. there was a form they signed that certified it to be true mileage....
    a speedo shop or dealer should know how to handle things .. For what it's worth....
     
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