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750 Monza Coupe??Serial # and history, please?

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  1. 246tasman

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    The double bubble makes more sense for a 750 Monza. The air intake on the top would be more appropriate for a V engine with downdraft carbs in the middle.
     
  2. Boudewijn

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    This is the one I meant, but reversed the numbers by accident into Robert Phillips' car.
     
  3. 246tasman

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    #28 246tasman, Nov 6, 2009
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    And it was (is) all steel and extremely heavy. I could never work out why..

    The colour photo is reversed. It appears LHD but wasn't.

    (I'm also a former owner - bought it from Don and sold it later to Oliver Kuttner from memory)
     
  4. richardowen

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  5. Boudewijn

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    The answer is "yes" Richard.
     
  6. Manuel Taboada

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    Augusto Palma, son of Manuel Palma (the owner of Palma & Morgado Garage ) confirmed me
    that Ferrari used by Joaquim Filipe Nogueira in Oporto Race in 1956, was a 750 Monza with 3l engine, from Andre Canonica with serial number 0486 ...
     
  7. Boudewijn

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    I just wanted to correct my mistake after the post Antoine Prunet made.
     
  8. Tom Roland

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    I am most interested to know how M. Augusto Palma can verify that the car crashed by J F Nogueira at Porto in 1956 was Canonica's 0486. Canonica did not own 0486 whose owner was Jacques Jonneret. Jonneret was a fellow countryman, also from Geneva, but it happens he came second with his 0486 at the St Ursanne hill-climb in Switzerland on June 24, just one week after the Porto event.
    Incidentally, Canonica's car, 0446, was not a 750 Monza but a 735 Mondial and it is easily recognisable on the interesting photo at Palma Morgado posted by Boudewijn from 0486, the first ever 750 Monza,
     
  9. Manuel Taboada

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    You have a PM
     
  10. XTP

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    #35 XTP, Nov 9, 2009
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    As far as I know the car is in the Louwman collection (and still is).

    I have some pictures of it.

    Xander
     
  11. Wolf

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    The gullwing body is in Virginia, USA. I saw it there myself.


    Regards


    Wolfi
     
  12. Boudewijn

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    This is 750S 0440M.
     
  13. XTP

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    Sorry my mistake.

    I was somehow told that it had first a body with gullwing doors.

    But you are right, it is 0440M.

    Is the boydy original of 0440M?
    I know that the engine is 0516M.

    Do you also know the chass. nummer of the 166 Aerolux, 375 indy and the 624 Tasmania
     
  14. bigodino

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    019, 02, 0712
     
  15. XTP

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    Thank you!!!
     
  16. tongascrew

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    If you can please post these. thanks tongascrew
     
  17. XTP

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    The car pictured here is s/n 0440MD...
     
  19. don

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    Although I have nothing to add about the original Monza, the body story is as follows.
    In 1974 The Gullwing Monza coupe was sold at the auction during the Geneva Motor Show in March of that year. I was then re-bodied by the Moores family of Liverpool ,England, back to an original open Monza.
    I was contacted a few years later, and asked if I was interested in buying a Ferrari body, that was in a storage garage in Manchester. As I had several Ferrari projects at the time, I went to take a look. The body had been carefully removed from the Monza frame, and was in such good condition, that I bought it. I was told that it was owned by a gentleman who was the Lamborghini importer for Cyprus !
    I had a number of rusted out 250GTEs, so the logical route for me was to fit the body to a shortened GTE frame, and turn it into a Ferrari that never was, for fun, sprints, hillclimbs etc; and that is what I did. A few alterations were considered, and the ugly air vents in the rear quarter panels were cut out, with the idea of a window to aid visibility .
    During this period, I met Peter Monteverdi at the Geneva Show. He told me that the car was built as the Monza had become uncompetitive, and it stood more chance of winning something in a GT category.
    Anyway my project got no further, due to business and other interests, and I sold it to Will Tompkins. I don't know if Will took it further or not, but I understand that it is now somewhere in the USA.
    To the eagle-eyed reader, yes that is the remains of 063S sitting at the bottom in the photo. It cost me a good lunch from Colin Crabbe, and I got it as the windshield was the same as my 212 Vignale #0197E. The Stabilimente Farina side flashes are restored, and sit on my bookshelves. The rest was cut into smaller pieces and destroyed.
    Don
     
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  22. cdu

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    Klaatu barada nikto!
     
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