812 VS Rumors

Transaxle! Could have something to do with it. If you have 10k revs to play with you can have lower gearing, presumably more heat in the transaxle, especially nearly 900 hp and lower gearing.

 

The main reason not to take the air form underneath, is to keep that airflow clean. Remember that the majority of what actual downforce the car can make IRL, is created underneath, not on top.

I don't think practicality is going to be the strong suit of this car. As I mentioned a few pages back, could the breakthough be the battery size? Perhaps. I don't think the boot will be totally occupied by battery and radiators, but rather just a more shallow floor, say 8-10 cm less depth. This could contain a small but hyper-efficient battery pack, as well as air-cooled liquid to air heat exchangers. I know, I'm weaving here, but still. Right now that thing looks so interesting to me that I'm just happy to roll with it a bit. I think what ever it is, something special and cool is on its way.

 

Good call by @JTSE30 for the “slats” at the back.

I couldn’t understand how this would work with a glass backlight and couldn’t imagine no glass but there you go, no glass. Maybe just a slot down the middle?

I tried to imagine how these slats could transition to the sail panels, hence the 275-type louvres on my sketch. I at least guessed right on the scoop over the rear quarter being eliminated.

Also looks to have some CF element down at the front fender opening similar to what I drew—unless that’s a reflection.
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Could be. But just because they raise the RPM 1500, does that not warrant a ton of air. They just change the ring and pinion and the gearbox sees the same RPM. So the added cooling needed would not be much I think. Even trans coolers for much more beefy and wild transmissions are relatively small and fit in small places. Ferrari can try and use a ton of buzz words if it was a styling element, but I don't think even Ferrari has the balls to try that. Despite the fact that Ferrari knows people buy into a lot of things, there are limits. They know that if they put something that big and obvious on the car, it darn well better serve a proper purpose. Ferrari's bread and butter is for all intended purposes still to make fairly clean looking cars, despite the fact that they have moved in a more aggressive direction.

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm excited

 

Since we are all speculating here, I have always wondered about the performance and emissions benefits of some sort of active back pressure management system. Because of the increased back pressure caused by the new GPF systems (essentially a Venturi effect), what if that pressure could be neutralized or even improved with active devices (such as ECM motors)? If they were placed near the exhaust exit, they would likely need to be cooled. IIRC, some of the mules had what looked like enlarged, vented surrounds on the exhaust tips. Could these vents be used for that purpose and the cooling come from above? Just an idea.

 

Maybe they just moved the vents from the b-pillars to become the slats on the roof? Regardless of what they are, they look awesome.

 

I was told Targa tops would fit in the trunk.


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Guys , impressed by all the technical info you are providing - however I’m simple and it’s way above my understanding — but I LOVE what I see and if it’s close to 10,000 RPM, hybrid or not , with that aggressive styling - I’m Excited ! The perspective of that image distorts and foreshortens the front so that Carbon bonnet ‘vane/vent’ May be wider than it appears at first glance - would give a menacing ‘arrowhead ‘appearance from the front .... yes please !

 

Some people are saying this pic could be the targa aperta version.... hmmm

 

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Seems to have the same shut lines as the base car so I think it’s a hatch. I don’t see a gap at the forward end of the roof that a targa would have.

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I agree. I think people jumped to a conclusion after not seeing typical glass rear window.

 

I feel absolutely bad. Because I don't like at all what I saw on this leak (looks really weird IMO), but I know the final thing will probably look better. And don't want to wait dos meses to see the thing...

Maybe @Ingenere can lower my pain by trying a facial composite...

 

The carbon Targa roof would require solid mounting point at the windshield and towards the rear. I don’t know how that could be done with a hinged rear trunk which also needs a solid mounting surface. Judging from where the vents start and the requirement for solid mounting surface the Targa roof would be very small.


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I hope this helps but I agree it’s weird:
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Big NACA scoop to feed the spoiler or glass?! Or both?

 

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What could the NACA scoop possibly lead to?

Holding out for the full release but so far it looks too extreme for my liking.

 

Just a WAG because a scoop like that doesn’t work well on a diverging surface but it could still feed air to the underside of a wing/spoiler like on 488, for example, if the flow remains attached. And if glass, will give a bit of rearward visibility. They also reduced rear glass area oh TdF.

Agree that it’s extreme because I had sketched something like this based on the camouflaged car—gotta find my sketches—but dismissed this because I thought “no way the rear view is blocked like that!”

 

That huge V12 back there duh! Ohhhhh wait....

Ok maybe you have some hot luggage back there....

 

Blocking the rear is actually easily overcome by an Escalade type camera/rear view setup.
What I can’t get over are the air ducts. It makes me feel like they are cooling some electric motors or trying to move a lot of air for some unknown reason.

Normally you get the tech of the next model, but , other than tuning or programming for more BHP, have they ever altered or changed the power unit or type on any VS model like that?

 

Agree about the camera as long as it’s a net saving on weight—camera vs. weight of glass saved.

The scoops on the hatch probably feed air to the back of the car for some aero feature(s) while the black on the hood is probably mostly a CF panel (mostly for style) incorporating some vents (like those on the base car) and some additional venting as was done on TdF.

 

I can't see them adding electric motors just for the VS. That's such a huge engineering job on a platform that wasn't meant for it, it'll just be unbalanced and compromised.

 

This.

 

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One more pic for illustration purpose

 

I wonder, at speed, could it act like an Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) such as used on jet aircraft?

https://thepointsguy.com/news/what-is-the-apu/

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and the net result is to spin the transmission (which is mounted in the rear of the 812SF and presume will retain same placement in the 812VS)