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Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by Frenzisko, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Rookie

    Feb 16, 2011
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    Coupes are always better to drive. Safer too...
     
  2. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula Junior

    Dec 31, 2014
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    Jag shergill
    I think that you are fundamentally incorrect. My point was , with correct bracing , any penalty of rigidity compensation for the Aperta would equally entail other weight saving etc- saying an Aperta can not be a real sports car is frankly a ridiculous comment.
     
  3. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula Junior

    Dec 31, 2014
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    Better - NO. Safer , yes
     
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  4. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Rookie

    Feb 16, 2011
    3,938
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    Of course they are better. They are stiffer and lighter.
     
  5. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Rookie

    Nov 27, 2007
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    Depends on what you call "better"

    On a strictly technical side a coupe will always outperform the open top from the same basis car

    Will it give more pleasure to some people people to drive ? yes very probably
     
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  6. Solid State

    Solid State Formula 3
    Rossa Subscribed Owner

    Feb 4, 2014
    1,898
    From what has been posted, the F12 TDF just has CF bumper skins. No CF doors, hood or hatchback and all are massive in size. You could also do CF rims, torque tube, lighter weight exhaust material, and lighter rotors (someone posted carbon-carbon more efficient so less mass needed). And that's without going for fenders and supports. It depends on what you call a big margin but certainly can drop the weight. Also have to remember that the engine is bigger and they can go full tilt on the power and a couple percent lower on the gearing. Losing the top would be major. So would replacing the glass. They can do all of that and make the engine heavier and leave the TDF seriously in the dust. Not too early to talk about it IMO.
     
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  8. LVP488

    LVP488 Formula Junior

    Jan 21, 2017
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    It may be ridiculous but I'm not ashamed to stick to it :D
     
  9. markonex

    markonex Formula Junior

    Jul 31, 2015
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    Marco
    I understand your pioint, cannot disagree, surely it is a marvellous experience to feel the V12 6.5 sing in open air, whatever they will do, aperta, VS, targa, it will be a piece of art and the market will eat it in a second :)
     
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  10. markonex

    markonex Formula Junior

    Jul 31, 2015
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    Yes, actually, in italian, Tifosi identify especially soccer/football supporters/fans, with shades that go from normal supporters to bad ones, crashing and making caos with smoking bombs, misbehaviours etc. As an italian, I always prefer to be considered as "Appassionato Ferrari" that tranlates into Ferrari Enthusiast" :)
     
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  11. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula Junior

    Dec 31, 2014
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    Jag shergill
     
  12. JagShergill

    JagShergill Formula Junior

    Dec 31, 2014
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    Jag shergill

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