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  1. ingegnere

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    Yes, that was my theory when we thought there were inlets on the hatch. But this is much simpler and for the purpose of a street car similarly effective, I guess.
     
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  3. monkiboy48

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    It looks like an xx version. Maybe they are tuning the coupe to provide an xx version that can be driven on the public roads as a final send off? And the targa is the real vs, with everything toned down a little.

    Either way, I was never a fan of the f12 tdf's looks. This new 812vs has nice sharp creases that work. In my opinion, the f12 tdf is busy and too "softly" shapen in all the changed bodywork.

    599 gto for classic elegance, f12 tdf looks like it is in that awkward stage of puberty, and the 812 vs is the racecar.
     
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  4. Albert-LP

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    your position is: second place... ;)

    ciao
     
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  5. monkiboy48

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    It's almost as if the original design of the f12 tdf looked like this 812 vs but then the designers toned everything down and softened up all the sharp edges. Just my opinion.
     
  6. Albert-LP

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    (I still think they are only there to have a very good looking tall tail spoiler without having too much drag, whatever Ferrari tells...)

    ciao
     
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  8. Heynowbababooey

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    I love that rear end! Aggressive but clean and tasteful.
     
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  9. crinoid

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    It’s the 812 StinkinFast.
     
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  10. markonex

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    Thanks, to both for your super interesting feedback, I'm now thinking they help keeping the laminar flow attached to thw body avoiding early detachment fron the hatch, thus making effextively work the spoiler in a good way but also reducing the overall section of the flow thus improving efficiency and avoiding higher drag. Overall, quite distinctive solution for a street car
     
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    Ahahaha but I also mentioned a model with a solution on the hood similar to the VS. I didn’t understand if they did it on purpose for someone to notice or if it was a sensational lapse... Maybe they decided at the last minute to change it, just to make Forza Scuderia happy :D
     
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  13. dcmetro

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    Ahahahahahahaah no no I won't listen to my very french instincts. A good Tarring & Feathering will be fairly enough. I find @Forza Scuderia almost cute in his stubborn 10 y/o attitude. Reminds me my nephew
     
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  14. italiafan

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    Not cute. At times exceedingly rude to long-standing and upstanding members of this community.
    This is just another example.
     
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  15. ingegnere

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    From strictly an aerodynamic perspective for the same reason that old F1 cars (before regulation limiting rear over hang) would locate their rear wing as far back as possible: cleaner airflow to the rear spoiler (from a shallower deck angle, in this case) and increased leverage arm for the downforce on the rear tires, though this needs to be balanced with downforce at the front.
     
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  17. day355

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    If you find that there are similarities with the SF 90, it could not be otherwise, because as I had shared it, it is the designer of the SF 90 who designed the 812 VS ...
    The rear is as expected the most controversial part, although it is less square than you might imagine.
    In my opinion, and I have always believed it, TDF is better and will age better.
    For those who are disappointed with the power, the car was initially planned with 850 hp, but that is another story.
    Congratulations to future owners, you will have the best engine / gearbox combination in automotive history.
     
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  19. Marcel Massini

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    NEW FERRARI LIMITED-EDITION V12: THE COUNTDOWN HAS BEGUN

    · The first official photographs of the special version of the 812 Superfast were made available today

    · The model’s name and further technical information will be revealed on May 5 during a live-streamed event on Ferrari’s social media channels

    · The ultimate expression of Ferrari DNA: exclusivity, a racing soul and the pinnacle of automotive innovation

    · Naturally-aspirated V12 unleashes 830 cv at 9,500 rpm for a sensation of endless power and performance

    Maranello, April 21 2021 – The first official images of Ferrari’s latest limited-edition special series have been published in the build-up to its world première, which will be broadcast live on the Maranello marque’s social media channels on May 5 at 14:30 CEST.

    The new model is the ultimate expression of Ferrari’s concept of an extreme front-engined berlinetta, honing the characteristics of the critically-acclaimed 812 Superfast to a level never seen before. The result is a car that encapsulates and epitomises the company’s 70-plus years of experience on the world’s circuits, drawing on its thoroughbred sports car DNA to deliver a perfect marriage of performance, form, and function. Aimed at Ferrari’s most passionate collectors and connoisseurs, it features numerous uncompromising engineering solutions to guarantee peerless driving pleasure.

    As is the case with all Ferrari’s cars, the most striking feature lies at its very heart: in this instance the latest evolution of Maranello’s legendary 65° V12 engine, which reaches the highest output of any Ferrari road-car engine – 830 cv – and revs to 9,500 rpm, again the highest of any Ferrari ICE. The use of state-of-the-art materials, the redesign of many of the engine’s key components, a new valve timing mechanism and a new exhaust system are just some of the technical solutions that allow the most noble of Ferrari engines to deliver performance levels that are unprecedented in the V12 segment.

    The pure yet brutal power unleashed by the powertrain is paired with class-leading vehicle dynamics controls to ensure that the performance can be fully exploited and to guarantee maximum fun behind the wheel. Most distinctive of these solutions is the adoption of independent steering on all four wheels. This extends the feeling of agility and precision when cornering as well as providing unparalleled responsiveness to steering inputs. Another noteworthy engineering achievement is the development work undertaken to reduce the car’s overall weight compared to the 812 Superfast. This was achieved in particular by extensive use of carbon fibre, both on the exterior and in the cockpit. Lastly, the new model premieres version 7.0 of the renowned Side Slip Control vehicle dynamics system.

    One of the most striking aspects of this new model is how in-depth aerodynamic research has altered the car’s lines. Working in close synergy with the Ferrari Styling Centre, the aerodynamicists have adopted solutions that are extreme in form featuring profiles that are unprecedented for a road-legal car. The aerodynamic redesign of the whole car was aimed at maximising downforce levels: from the new front air intakes, rear diffuser and exhaust configuration to the patented design of the rear screen – which now hosts vortex generators – every modification is a faithful expression of Ferrari’s core belief that form must always follow function.

    From a design point of view, this new special series has a strong personality all of its own that differentiates it significantly from the 812 Superfast on which it is based: this was achieved by choosing styling themes that further enhance the architectural design and dynamism of the 812 Superfast, pushing its sporty vocation to new extremes.

    One example of this is the decision to replace the glass rear screen with a single-piece aluminium structure. The vortex generators it sports improve the car’s aerodynamic efficiency, but the design solution chosen, which is fully integrated with the roof, simultaneously creates a backbone effect that underscores the car’s sculptural forms.

    Together with the carbon-fibre blade that traverses the bonnet, this motif changes the overall perception of the car’s volumes: the bonnet seems shorter, emphasising the width of the car, and the tail now has a more powerful, fastback look, thus making it appear more compact and competition-like despite it sharing the 812 Superfast’s silhouette, proportions and formal balance. Even the rear spoiler now looks more imposing: it is higher but the specific design treatment used also makes the tail look very wide, almost horizontal.

    The interior architecture very much reflects that of the 812 Superfast, retaining the main dash and door panel interfaces and volumes, including the signature diapason motif. Along with other elements of the interior, the door panel has been redesigned to reduce weight and, combined with the introduction of the H-gate theme on the tunnel, this lends the cockpit a sportier, more modern edge that reflects the car’s racing spirit.

    From Tammy Haines, PR and Communication Manager
    Ferrari Central Europe GmbH
     
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  20. Boots

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    Marcel would it be fair to assume we'll have to wait until May 5th to see photographs of a the physical car?
     
  21. kubakozal

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    much better.

    nah, I wouldn't bet on this.

    Ferrari may seem to use some RandomNameGenerator.exe to name their cars, but in reality they rather stick to some historical rules. If they name the car GTO, it will have its track version (even if for 599 it was little bit stretched). If they name it Competizione it IS the racing car. And neither is the case here.
     
  22. markonex

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    #6719 markonex, Apr 21, 2021
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    About the power, I think you or other relecant members already warned us the planned output was reduced due to GPF and emission regulations. Anyway, I'm sure those 20 PS will not be noticed compared to all the other technical gills and innovations the car has :)
     
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  23. Forza Scuderia

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    On ESPN they like to say “Our research is better than yours.”

    This time my sources let me down clearly lol.

    I actually prefer it to be named Competzione.
     
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  25. JTSE30

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    I wonder if the TDF filler cap will be an option...surely it will be available for Tailor Made...
     
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  26. Forza Scuderia

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    Not only can you tar and feather me ... you can use the feathers from the crow that I’m eating on this one boys!
     
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  27. JTSE30

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    Where's the front splitter? Otherwise the aero would be unbalanced and scary at high speeds...
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    I'm sure they perfected it all in a wind tunnel or fluid dynamic modeling, just the same, why so much attention to a big tail and reduced turbulence, seems the top speed would be reduced...so maybe the extended tail length is to provide room for something else in the drivetrain...?
     
  28. jpalmito

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    I think that this power recalibration is rather due to the future evolution of the V12 engine models
     
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