Then i wonder why they discontinued the NA V8 if they are able to keep the NA V12? And much more power can they extract from it? Lastly with the emission and sound regulations I actually wonder if it will be viable at all and if the demand will be that strong
NA v12 can be coupled with electric assist, no? Or is this explicitly NA v12 internal combustion engine *only*?
Back to the 812 C, when do we expect the first ones to be delivered? I can’t wait to see it (and hopefully hear it).
Will the 812’s replacement be a front-mid engined V12 like the 812 or rear-mid engined like the Testarossa? As always thank you for your insights. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
so, let's hypothesize, next hypercar reveal in early 2023 using a new V12 block+hybrid, that's going to be rear-mid-engine, no doubt so, for an 812 replacement to be revealed at the end of 2023, using a V12 with a rear-mid-engine placement, chances of that occurring are ZERO even if the next hypercar (v12-based) is in 2024 (or even 2022 for that matter) will not change the fact that an 812 replacement would not be be rear-mid-engine unless of course the next hypercar does not use a V12 at all...then, the game changes, specifically, an 812 replacement could be front or rear engine placement... curious times for sure!
I initially thought the 812C/Aperta was going to be the last NA/non assisted V12 - but I was wrong and realized that there’s at Least 1 more ( probably 3 ) limited edition iterations before full ( irrevocable ) hybridization....
Post the LaF replacment I think a strong Cohort of ferrarista will go retro ONLY for their collections ... I may probably join them .
Ferrari are the romantic name in Autos- they will stay so - but nostalgia can be more visceral than uncertain progress ..... good F50s and Enzos WILL be £3Mill/ in 3-5 years ... got 275 will be 4-5Mill....All IMHO- but I “know I’m right “... shame as means less get driven ...
I like the sound I like the Shape I like the driving pleasure However , I ADORE the feeling of being Alive /childish /free of adult concerns / when I drive my F cars - happy to be a fool on the see-saw of life
Maybe the Laferrari replacement will use a brand new downsized V12 with hybridization and the 812 replacement with the last development from the actual 6.5 l.
What I am talking about is the car cannot be ordered as it can’t even be specced out yet. I have a signed purchase order and paid deposit and there is no “sales contract” unless your dealer made one up, which maybe they did, but then I’m wondering why you would have signed it.
I believe the only V12’s after the Competizione will be an Icona model. Wouldn’t it be great for it to be a P4 themed mid engine V12. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I thought all Iconas were based on normal production cars, as in, there has to be a standard production mid engine V12 to use as the architecture (chassis, running gear etc) for the Icona. Is this so? Or can their be bespoke platforms just for the Iconas? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Given the new emission regulations in Europe ( i believe the European Commission is supposed to come up with a proposal for reduced / zero emission targets in July) and the direction both Ferrari and other auto car makers are taking I personally can’t see how they could maintain after the 812 another (more) expensive large production series V12 while it will have GPF, reduced sound, have to comply with stricter emission rules and also will be less compelling performance wise given a V6 now offers 800+ hp and some buyers seem to care about that…though day355 was of the opinion recently the 812 replacement would remain NA. I am actually surprised how there can be so much hype around the 812C being the na v12 and shortly thereafter people strongly thinking it wont be the case + Ferrari strongly defending the idea of fighting for the 6.5 L V12… anyways time will tell
This picture has been taken several months ago and was posted just now. IMO the 812 C mule is one of the prettiest we've seen around. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I'm still hearing that the 812 successor will be a small displacement V12, and so will the FUV. Time will tell, but the V12 is important for Ferrari. Icona cars are based off of normal production models, and I doubt that will change. Developing an engine just for such a low volume of cars would make the cost astronomical. Not seeing that happening. Sent from my SM-G930F using FerrariChat.com mobile app
sorry if I am ignorant , but if for example you build a 4 litre Na v12 , are you sure you’ll be able to reach relevant performances ??
