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Discussion in 'FF/Lusso/F12/812S' started by Frenzisko, Feb 10, 2018.
To me winter 2020
Before the covid, initialy for the finali mondiali...
also after Covid confirmed for Abu Dhabi
but also new Portofino was confirmed in July just after lockdown but now seems to be postpone in September.......bohhhh
Any confirmation for LB?
In November in Abu Dhabi？
it's crazy how many people here were adament there wouldn't be an 812 VS!
Similar to the ones saying there will not be an F8 VS?
I don’t recall anyone speculating no 812VS. My impression is that it has always been a foregone conclusion.
Now, F8VS? I think that is an ace in the hole for the mothership to release in the event LB is delayed again.
No delay? No F8VS.
My crystal ball says it won’t happen.
Will there be one? Who knows? F8 wasn’t supposed to happen at all. 488 Challenge will not be replaced by F8 Challenge - and that’s usually the prelude to VS car. 488 Challenge Evo rear looks exactly like Pista. We shall see...
Ferrari has already oversupplied the market - lost of cancellations. They aren’t stupid and are throttling back. But to meet revenue numbers on reduced allocations means more expensive high spec and LE cars.
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definetely no F8 VS: there is already the F8 VS, it's the 488 Pista...
so ferrari laid a red carpet for the LT765
The SF90 has already moved the game on...
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i never liked idea of a front engine track version for ferrari. i think a speciale feels better on track than a 500gto due to midengine handling. i still think a pista will handle better than 812vs but the na v12 makes quite a case for itself on track compared to pista turbo
I’ve taken my FF, F12, 812S, and 488 on track, and raced a mid-engined Radical SR3 RSX and Spec Miara. Haven’t had a chance to try our Pista on track yet, but I agree wholeheartedly that the mid-engined models are better balanced for track use.
Imho, the front-engined models, even the VS versions, really shine brightest on the road as GT cars. Not a bad thing at all. I’d rather drive my 812 or an FF / Lusso cross-country than about any other car I’ve owned including sedans and SUV’s. It’s so fun and practical, too.
Agreed front engine cars best on road but doesnt the track focus model compromise the road comfort for tract handling thats still not up to mid engine agility. Why not just put crazy track v12 into 812 and leave suspension alone?
Here's another idea for the factory, for the 812VS reveal...
1. Live stream on popular easily accessible site like Youtube, no "phone app" required.
2. Have the CEO introduce the car, in studio.
3. Have each of several heads of the various engineering teams take the microphone for a solid 3-4 minute presentation each about what they did to make the car special.
4. Include a couple of 2-3 minute pre-prepared video clips showing the car being driven on road and on track.
5. Make it a live, worldwide debut. We could all tune in from all over the world.
6. CEO then announces there are several pre-production cars ready to ship to dealers worldwide right away and conclude by saying to contact your local dealer to sign up for your private review and test drive.
anyone see how a blogger hijacked the amg gt black series intro this week? not worth it for exotics to make such a big deal about intros since someone always leaks it out prior to event anyway.
I missed that. You have a link?
i dont know the entire story but its on youtube. amg caught wind of the blogger and preempted him with their own 'pirated' video featuring schmee 150. btw, im not a huge fan of these amg blacks
Its not a tesla so no reveal even necessary. We will do all the advertising needed for the VS as we are doing with all the allocations fretted over. The reveal will be leaked descriptions of the private viewings, then some leaked photos, a couple short videos and then a public event which relatively few will attend. Its the LE way.
Wasn’t the SF90 revealed online? I remember it being leaked with a couple of bad images before the presentation, but I think Ferrari did have an online reveal as well, maybe they’ll do the same for the VS.
Why do this? Risk of a zoom crash or highjack is too great for world's top brand.
Also, what does Ferrari gain by making this available to anyone with an internet connection?
And number 6 is an impossible suggestion - the CEO is not going to ask any of us to sign up for a private review and test drive. Who are we? This is a limited edition car. SpA decides which of us gets to purchase the car. We don't have a say.
Will probably be something similar to this...
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With current situations, "in-person" in the EU will not be possible; No one from USA is currently allowed to travel to EU; Travel to some other country without restrictions will overly complicate the entire process for Ferrari; YT live stream is not going to be hijacked; The car will not be limited/numbered edition, why would it be? This is the end of the V12, for comparison, the Pista is the end of the V8 non-hybrid top car and it was not limited. It seems the new conditions for limited editions are for Icona and Hypercar.
And, do not forget the SF90 destroyed demand for the 812, Ferrari needs to sell as many 812s as it can including 812VS. And, Ferrari has a pricing problem as many will disagree, but by setting the SF90 as the top car, that creates an artificial price ceiling for the 812VS, it will not exceed, remember, again, the SF90 destroyed demand for the 812SF, that makes this is a viable observation.