maybe this thread will suffice for you....
Available at Konradsheim's and pretty perfect as all his cars tend to be http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/find/4100_results.asp?bsubmit=true&lmodelflag=14948&lmanufacturer=10106&whatbutton.x=0&page=0&lCarID=1789824 Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Belgian car that's also available.. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
georgeos car...but $125k for a 76 w/ 82k miles? hate to ask but how much are they asking for the copper 75 in Belgium?
Charles, I think the Belgian car asks some $53,000 US or so. Regarding the Dr Georg Konradsheim car: yes its very pricey, but, few people know their Porsches like he does and its priced relative to he others out there. Its a near-perfect car refurbished only a few k miles ago and he knows there is nothing that compares. So too, these bring a lot more in Europe than in the USA. I have seen several nice cars in Eu sell for over $100k. Road Scholars sold the low-mileage & original white/red Mexico 1975 car for close to $150k. There is a nice low-mileage (16k) & original silver/blue car that is privately available in the USA take-it-or-leave it for $100k. David Mohlman just sold a lovely 8k miles car for $90k he tells me. There is a 3.0 Turbo Carrera that was just restored at Porsche AG at a cost of $300k, and the famed ex-Porsche racing driver just shipped his example to California and it was restored at a cost of $150,000 US (he didn't want to pay Porsche Ag's prices!). I have observed at least half-a-dozen 3.0 930 restorations either in process or having recently been completed. What does all this tell us? It tells us these cars are back in favor and are being re-discovered by the faithful. It also tells us they wont be getting any cheaper and their values are being re-set as we speak! Remember too, Konradshiem (he wrote the famed 2.7 Carrera RS book) was involved with the re-resurgence of the RS market - remember when you could buy a 2.7 RS Touring for $35k? Its interesting to see him now focusing on 3.0 Turbo Carreras. I say if you love 3.0 930s, hunt one down soon. Like, now...
Is everyone implying that if it's a '79 they are less desirable, therefore will bring less money? Here is a picture of mine. I'm the second owner, fully documented with 36k miles. Car is in near mint condition throughout. Image Unavailable, Please Login
A thread that covers all 930s and mostly features the 3.3 cars. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217774&highlight=Porsche+930 Another http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330482
Awesome 930 you have there, congratulations! No implications whatsoever. This is simply a thread that's dedicated to the 3.0 930 and is reporting whats out there and what's happening in the market. Noting that fact as many times as it seems to need to be done is beginning to be a little redundant (please see the thread's title). ALL 930s are fantastic, this just happens to be a thread that focuses on a particular VARIANT of the 930. What happens in dedicated threads? People tend to extol the virtues of the cars in question, and nice examples of 3.0 930s do in fact bring more money than relatively-conditioned 3.3 cars so it doesn't surprise that 3.0 930s are being portrayed as more desirable, does it? This is by no means meant to slight 3.3 cars. Ive no idea why 3.0 cars bring more $. Its one of those illogical classic car concepts. If one prefers a 3.3 car and feels it is better for whatever reason, then by all means go ahead and embrace that notion. Each to their own, but again, this is a 3.0 930 thread. Perhaps someone can start a 1979 930 thread. In fact, a general 930 thread already exists and that is a great venue for the 3.3 cars. Meanwhile, this 3.0 930-dedicated thread is a long overdue thread started because 3.0 930s are back in favor and are being re-discovered by the faithful.. Here is a novel thought: a 3.0 930 AND a 3.3 930 in the garage. Why not have both?
Original RHD car in Australia with sunroof delete, sports seats and tartan inserts. Groovy one-door mirror! No stone guards. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
interesting, silver window trim... i thought they only faded out that way in the cali sun . like the sc, was the blackout trim listed as an option? only on very rare occasions you will see an sc or (and early turbo) with bright trim?
Very early a/c as well (may or may not be factory) that was eventually phased out, uncommon on the 930.
It is kind of ironic to see the interest and values of the 3.0 liter cars beginning to climb strongly and the strength of the '89 3.3 cars with the G50 transmission, while all the "meat" in the middle from '78 to '88 is sort of languishing in the 25-40K range for good quality, original drivers. The early cars and and the '89s going up will eventually help the rest though...I remember when you could buy a concourse 912 for $6,000...it was back when early 911Ss were in the 15K range. How times have changed I've driven pretty much all of 'em and would buy a 3.0 to collect and sell later on for a song and a 3.3 to drive, as they are much much better cars all-around. Off-boost performance, brakes, comfort, road-holding, interior appointments, I could go on...
Not sure, although I see a good many 3.0 Turbos where the blackout has clearly FADED unevenly across the car. But I have indeed seen some very early cars (all 1975 cars) with all-bright trim.. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
going back in my archieves / pictures remebering what i have looked at (some i have not posted here) i keep thinking how i really missed the opportunity on this one.
Post the others if you can. You have more experience looking than most, so I think you'll recognize a good one next time you come across one.
Here is our 1977 9307800545 (copper) together with Kevin R's 1977 9307800665 (tobacco) in the good old days. Kevin had both the 3.0 & the 3.3 but loved the 3.0 because it was lighter and felt more "alive". Perhaps just because it was an old thing made it special too. Its not always about the later technology... Anyway, this image of 2 3.0 cars together signals the idea of a 3.0 Reunion one day..... Image Unavailable, Please Login
And here is 9307800545 again, this time tucked away with a car from a similar era, our Countach LP400 1120192 Image Unavailable, Please Login
What a great thread! Would never have looked on this forum for it. I too love the early 930's. So much so that I am considering cloning one. Yeah, that's right. Not an RS/RSR/R clone but a 3.0 Turbo clone. Maybe I'm ahead of the curve? Haha....probably not. I have a very nice non sunroof '74 911S with 930 flares and a complete drive train from a '75 930 (yes, one of 284). I was leaning towards a backdate but this thread has me second guessing myself. I'm thinking I could pull of a very convincing 1975 930. I already have the correct rear bumper guards, single flag mirror, sport seats and engine/trans. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
