Yeah, i have heard good things about the Deman cars. What kind of warranty do they offer, or service / rebuild schedules ? Any idea?
You pay to fix that’s the warranty. The beautiful thing about an RS or clubsport is it’s factory durable
Given it has the same hp and a lot more downforce it’s not really going to be quicker through the esses than a plain Jane gt3. That’s a flat out section in most cars regardless of aero. I won’t be quicker than a gt3 down the straights but it will be faster everywhere else. That’s whole lot of time between the bus stop and turn 1. The driver will need to be up to the lateral gs this car can pull. What do they say something like 2 gs compared to a z07 which will be 1.25, that’s the difference I’m assuming unlike aero cats there is also not a gap between mechanical grip and aero grip, rather a smooth transition. But yeah who is going to be able to get to the cars limit oter than a pro, and below the limit you’re just Steering. Faster for sure, as much fun, maybe not because most of the laptime will be the car not you. Had the same experience in a maclaren 570gt4. gt4rs seems to be the best imo or a regular gt3. We’ll see how the z06 really is on track. The gt3 RS still one cool machine though.
Sean, I get what you're saying about Watkins being flat-out for most cars all the way from turn one, up through the Esses, and down the back straight. What if the RS can carry 20mph more THROUGH turn one and still be flat after that all of the way to the Bus Stop. I tracked-out at the top of the Esses in my GT3 at 145mph and hit 165mph Vmax before hitting the brakes to get through the Bust Stop. What if the RS can get up through the Esses 20mph faster and still stay flat and build speed? Could Vmax on the back straight for the RS approach 180mph? Maybe not, but I would put a lot of money on that car being able to get well into the 170's because of a much faster exit through turn 1. That's scary speed in a street car without a full cage and fire suppression.
I hear what youre saying. A RS has more or less the same power as a regular Gt3, and for sure when the wing is in downforce position(on corners) it has more drag, but you can deploy more power in corners due to downforce. The esses are the one place flat out regardless of whether its a regular Gt3 or a RS, so as you imply the only way a RS can be faster than a Gt3 through the Esses is if its speed through turn 1 is much faster and its then coming at the esses(turn 2) from a much higher baseline speed. I guess thats possible to a degree, but seems to me the biggest time gain for the Rs would be from the bust stop through 11, as these are all slower corners where downforce would allow significantly more speed to be carried. But then yes youre right too, turn 1 would be quicker and the approach to 2 would be faster. getting he Rs near its limit on corners is going to require a serious driver, and at that point as you say, no cage or fire suppression, yikes. The more I think about it, the rs with the same power as the Gt3 gains all its speed through more momentum, thats a whole lotta speed to still be playing with momentum, not too many divers on that level. A brilliant accomplishment, pointless on road, and arguably a step back to a regular Gt3 on road, and for track, yeah something that arrived on a trailer is prob quicker still, far safer and more appropriate. Still wouldn't kick a Rs out of bed, Id just bring it on a trailer with slicks, and install the motorsport half cage harnesses etc. kinda like a Gt3 ClubSport then, but maybe quicker, and more reliable less maintenance than a cup car. Still if ones going that far, a ClubSport or cup car is the way to go.
Received a call today from my local P dealer who has been ‘holding me a slot’ for a GT3 until he received an allocation. They don’t get many of those around here it seems. Last one was a couple years ago. My interest was only to get a manual as they seem to be going extinct and outside of a Porsche what is left? Not a fan of the BMW’s and the Supra’s looks are not appealing. Well, the allocation is for a GT3RS for an Oct ‘23 slot, Dec ‘23 delivery. He’s not charging me an ADM (he’s a friend) and my build on the configurator is about $280k which includes the Weissach package. Now….I don’t track. I’m not a fan of the massive wing. I really want a MT. My dealer doesn’t want me to flip it (not sure what time frame he’s gonna ‘insist’ I keep it) and wants me to bring the car to occasional dealer events to show it off. We are meeting next week. Curious if he can swap this allocation with another dealer with a ‘regular’ GT3 slot. Or, do I run with this allocation and flip it after a period of time the dealer is satisfied with and use the gain (hopefully, considering no adm) to buy a used MT GT3 (not the Touring, I’m somewhat ok with the smaller wing) that of course I wouldn’t be able to spec as new. I appreciate the feedback….be gentle. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I agree with you that a regular gt3 with stick might be preferable, esp if not tracking all the time. But still hard to turn down opportunity to own fastest na ice car all time. Definitely day for Thanksgiving re your 'dilemma'. I would just tell dealer this story and see what says.
I’m going to Charlotte Monday to drive a 2022 MT GT3 and a 2019 GT3RS and see if the MT is all I’m hoping it to be. I must say though I’m really liking the looks of the GT3RS build vs my GT3 build, despite the huge wing. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Just had a brief drive of each but I thought the GT3RS was a rough ride and slower than I imagined but I’m used to the F8. The seats were a great fit although getting in/out wasn’t that great. I thought the sound was good. The MT GT3 was fun to drive. The 18 way seats were very nice. This is definitely the car to take to the mountains with my wife. Now I’m waiting to see if my dealer can swap my GT3RS allocation with another dealer that has a GT3 allocation. If not I’ll take the RS and trade for a GT3 down the road. Probably going with white on the RS but I didn’t like the white on the GT3. The RS with Weissach really breaks up the white well and I love the blue wheels and decals. Thinking of a PTS dark blue or Agate Grey for the GT3. Had a customer event at the PECATL last week as well. That was fun! Made me want to take delivery there. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Am looking forward to seeing these in the metal at the Nurburgring in 2023....will be interesting to see if / how Manthey Racing do an MR version, given their MR kits have removed the PASM component (just being manually adjustable). A big selling point for the new RS is the adjustable damping and diff from the steering wheel....
I got a call from my dealer, they have a spot for Feb build that hasn't been allocated. I'm a long time customer, I've had maybe 8 porsche through them from cayenne turbo to a few 911's including the last 2 gt3rs. They told me flat out, it's going to whoever wants to pay $200k over sticker and the other 3 they have coming are going to other big clients who are also paying $200k over. Is this it? Are we never going to get a porsche for sticker again? I got the last 2019 GT3RS for sticker, same with the 2016 i had. Sad to see.
Motorweek reviewed it on t.v.. They're like consumer reports but can get some info it listen carefully. Complained about feel of std paddles saying to consider opting for magnesium magnetic ones. They didn't say it but that requires wp. But main thing is they felt it was shockingly easy to exploit on track. Not intimidating at all. Makes anyone a hero. I'm surprised as I assumed it would be widow maker.
Apart from even more aero (aero disk wheels etc) I struggle to see how they could possibly improve on it...but it's Manthey after all, they keep doing it somehow!
The All-New 911 GT3RS is the Wildest 911 Of All Time! (And Why I Don't Want One) - The Smoking Tire - YouTube great review. he is skeptical at the start but then warms up to its purpose.
This is a major issue. Same issue with the GT4rs which is not supposed to be limited prod car. Maybe porsche has its calculations all wrong. I suspect that porche NA is in the thrall of dealers who are more than happy with the markups. If you write to porche all you get is a response from corporate marketing mba pr types. whats were seeing is track based cars going to people who use them to drive round miami, or flippers. Its beyond poor brand management and does nothing for the bottom line of porsche the manufacturer. You'd think the answer is just build more fo the cars people want to buy, a great way to pay for all that electric investment too.
Settled on South Sea Blue Metallic for my spec. Looking forward to December! Image Unavailable, Please Login Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Get it. I remember when the local small dealer had an allocation of two 997 GTRSs and offered me one. $250K. . That was all the money in the world to me at the time. The dealership owner claimed the other. "I'll wait until they depreciate". Right . This was right at the tipping point when brand new Porsches became "investments". DOH !
