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Advise on tool needed to remove then retorq this nut up.

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Peppi, May 8, 2004.

  1. Peppi

    Peppi Karting

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    #1 Peppi, May 8, 2004
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    I need to remove this nut off the cambelt drive sprocket on my mondial t 1993 inorder to be able to remove the sprocket , to replace the oil seal behind it ,then need to torque the nut back up or is it best to replace the special nut with a normal hex nut , could someone please tell me , is there a special tool that one needs to buy ,or has someone used other ? , to remove this special nut ?
    Thankyou to all repies , kind regards Peppi.
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  2. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    #2 Mitch Alsup, May 8, 2004
    You could weld 4 tabs on a socket
    or
    you can grind out a section of a socket leaving 4 tabs
     
  3. RAYMAN

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    #3 RAYMAN, May 8, 2004
    You need a spanner wrench for that. Not common, but I've never shoped for one.
     
  4. Steve Magnusson

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    #4 Steve Magnusson, May 8, 2004
    Peppi -- Do a search here and at the old site on "ring nut".
     
  5. ferrarifixer

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    #5 ferrarifixer, May 8, 2004
    It's the same tool as all the 308 and BB series cam drives. Also TRossa steering wheel. Any Ferrari specialist/dealer will have it.

    I don't have the torque, but it is tight. To make your own tool will mean doing a very good job. Many of us have spent a day making a tool, only for it to break very quickly.

    The best way to make the tool is to have a sleeve around the 4 tabs that is welded to them, so they don't bend over and shear off.

    Be aware there is a bearing upgrade for certain engine numbers on this drive gear...check with Ferrari whether yours has been done.
     

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  6. yelcab

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    #6 yelcab, May 8, 2004
    That is a pretty critical place, I would just spring for a special socket. $75, I think, from baum tools.
     
  7. ham308

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    #7 ham308, May 9, 2004
    I was one of those people who spent some time grinding up a tool only to have it fail. Those nuts are done up tight.

    I see you're in Cardiff. I couldn't find the correct tool for a reasonable price in Europe. Ferrari were ~£130 and elsewhere not much cheaper. In the end I removed the nuts by drilling and a friend made some up on a lathe starting from a normal good quality nut. It's not difficult but it's a non standard M17x1 thread.

    The hexagon makes it very easy to tighten them back up properly.

    By the way, don't know about the modial T, but on a 308 if the oil seal is gone here, it usually means the ball bearings supporting the shaft are also toast.

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  8. Peppi

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    #8 Peppi, May 9, 2004
    The question that I asked has been kindly answered by all , just wanted to say thankyou for taking the time for all your advise on this , to my question.

    The seal is not actually leaking, just wanted to change it whilst I have the chance to do so ,as a preventitive measure more than anything else.

    To all , Thanks regards Peppi.
     

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